1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,800 [Music] 2 00:00:08,210 --> 00:00:05,809 welcome everyone to the California MUFON 3 00:00:10,430 --> 00:00:08,220 radio show I'm your host Lori in Fenton 4 00:00:11,749 --> 00:00:10,440 we're here on inception radio network as 5 00:00:14,150 --> 00:00:11,759 you know it is the home of the most 6 00:00:16,070 --> 00:00:14,160 famous app on the planet where you can 7 00:00:17,570 --> 00:00:16,080 get inception radio network any time of 8 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:17,580 day or night that you want you can 9 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:19,770 download you can upload you can just 10 00:00:24,859 --> 00:00:21,570 have a great old time loading away so 11 00:00:26,779 --> 00:00:24,869 there you go so get that app it's the IR 12 00:00:29,419 --> 00:00:26,789 and app it is lovely it's got a little 13 00:00:30,950 --> 00:00:29,429 microphone a little spaceship it's got 14 00:00:32,810 --> 00:00:30,960 you know what I was laughing the other 15 00:00:34,940 --> 00:00:32,820 day because I was looking at the logo of 16 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:34,950 inception radio network I went wait a 17 00:00:39,979 --> 00:00:37,290 minute that's the billy meier Palladian 18 00:00:42,260 --> 00:00:39,989 ship from the 50s boy we're dating 19 00:00:45,470 --> 00:00:42,270 ourselves see this is how long space 20 00:00:47,869 --> 00:00:45,480 these patients have been around it's 21 00:00:51,410 --> 00:00:47,879 like oh my god we need a new sleeker 22 00:00:54,319 --> 00:00:51,420 like triangle craft in there MJ and Bob 23 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:54,329 and Joe we gotta get up to date what's 24 00:00:59,420 --> 00:00:56,730 wrong with us no no I think it's really 25 00:01:01,700 --> 00:00:59,430 cool that we do the throwback spacecraft 26 00:01:03,319 --> 00:01:01,710 I really do I really love that craft 27 00:01:06,140 --> 00:01:03,329 because it's one of the first crafts I 28 00:01:08,300 --> 00:01:06,150 ever really saw when I was doing 29 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:08,310 research on UFOs you know it's the one 30 00:01:13,399 --> 00:01:10,290 with the three balls underneath it and 31 00:01:15,170 --> 00:01:13,409 you know there's still a lot of 32 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:15,180 controversy about whether those were 33 00:01:22,670 --> 00:01:19,650 German soldiers crafts or not but you 34 00:01:24,649 --> 00:01:22,680 know it's so bizarre someday all the 35 00:01:26,300 --> 00:01:24,659 truth will come out and I can guarantee 36 00:01:29,420 --> 00:01:26,310 you folks it ain't gonna come out with 37 00:01:31,460 --> 00:01:29,430 to the Stars Academy boy oh my god well 38 00:01:33,289 --> 00:01:31,470 that reminds me let me get the 39 00:01:36,649 --> 00:01:33,299 advertisements out of the way quickly 40 00:01:39,469 --> 00:01:36,659 here because if it wasn't for you know 41 00:01:41,810 --> 00:01:39,479 me doing some advertising I wouldn't 42 00:01:43,639 --> 00:01:41,820 survive I'm telling you guys this whole 43 00:01:47,030 --> 00:01:43,649 thing had put it putting on conferences 44 00:01:48,620 --> 00:01:47,040 uh-huh you cannot be faint of heart to 45 00:01:51,710 --> 00:01:48,630 put on a conference like I put on 46 00:01:54,170 --> 00:01:51,720 because seriously I've never been 47 00:01:56,090 --> 00:01:54,180 through so much stress in my entire life 48 00:01:59,030 --> 00:01:56,100 and every time it's over I go I'm never 49 00:02:02,060 --> 00:01:59,040 doing this again I'm never gonna do this 50 00:02:04,850 --> 00:02:02,070 again and then I do it again and 51 00:02:10,070 --> 00:02:04,860 stupidly I don't know what possessed me 52 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:10,080 when they asked me November of godwyn 53 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:13,050 was it it was November of 6 54 00:02:18,740 --> 00:02:16,290 tene a bunch of guys from the JFK 55 00:02:21,550 --> 00:02:18,750 Historical Society approached me at the 56 00:02:24,050 --> 00:02:21,560 November 16 Dallas conference and said 57 00:02:30,350 --> 00:02:24,060 you know we really need some help 58 00:02:32,870 --> 00:02:30,360 putting on a conference and so I went 59 00:02:34,250 --> 00:02:32,880 ahead and agreed to help them I didn't 60 00:02:35,990 --> 00:02:34,260 realize when they were gonna put the 61 00:02:39,620 --> 00:02:36,000 conference on I knew that was gonna be 62 00:02:43,220 --> 00:02:39,630 sometime in the spring of 18 but I just 63 00:02:46,550 --> 00:02:43,230 was like well sure whatever and then in 64 00:02:48,020 --> 00:02:46,560 March of 17 one year ago they came to me 65 00:02:49,850 --> 00:02:48,030 and said okay we're really gonna do it 66 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:49,860 and blah blah blah and I'm like okay 67 00:02:53,660 --> 00:02:51,210 great what are you gonna do it I'm 68 00:02:56,180 --> 00:02:53,670 thinking may or june or april you know 69 00:02:59,840 --> 00:02:56,190 late april they go oh no the second week 70 00:03:02,390 --> 00:02:59,850 of march and I'm like oh no I said I put 71 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:02,400 on UFO Con the third week you know third 72 00:03:06,710 --> 00:03:04,410 or fourth week of March they're like oh 73 00:03:08,630 --> 00:03:06,720 is that gonna be a problem and I thought 74 00:03:10,250 --> 00:03:08,640 to myself you know I'm pretty good at 75 00:03:12,170 --> 00:03:10,260 doing this stuff with my hands tied 76 00:03:12,530 --> 00:03:12,180 behind my back I think I could pull it 77 00:03:14,690 --> 00:03:12,540 off 78 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:14,700 and I I do think it would be a big deal 79 00:03:19,790 --> 00:03:17,010 and then when I started doing this I 80 00:03:21,380 --> 00:03:19,800 realized these guys are you know the 81 00:03:22,940 --> 00:03:21,390 people that work with me for UFO con 82 00:03:24,350 --> 00:03:22,950 thank God I just call them on the phone 83 00:03:25,729 --> 00:03:24,360 and I say this is what we need it's got 84 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:25,739 to get done and blah blah blah and it's 85 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:28,050 all taken care of I mean I takes a lot 86 00:03:31,910 --> 00:03:30,450 of organizing but they've done it with 87 00:03:33,770 --> 00:03:31,920 me enough over the last four or five 88 00:03:36,020 --> 00:03:33,780 years that we you know I have the PA 89 00:03:39,979 --> 00:03:36,030 system figured out we have this the 90 00:03:42,170 --> 00:03:39,989 sound we have the the videographers all 91 00:03:44,030 --> 00:03:42,180 figured out we have the hotel's figured 92 00:03:46,340 --> 00:03:44,040 out I mean it's pretty much you know 93 00:03:49,100 --> 00:03:46,350 it's a lot of work but it's not nearly 94 00:03:51,170 --> 00:03:49,110 the stress because I know I'm covered in 95 00:03:54,199 --> 00:03:51,180 areas that these guys never even thought 96 00:03:55,820 --> 00:03:54,209 about right oh my god and then I start 97 00:03:57,710 --> 00:03:55,830 talking to my co of you ever done yeah 98 00:03:59,630 --> 00:03:57,720 oh yeah yeah we've we did it you know 99 00:04:01,790 --> 00:03:59,640 three years ago so I'm thinking okay so 100 00:04:03,620 --> 00:04:01,800 these guys know what they're doing well 101 00:04:05,750 --> 00:04:03,630 then the port guys I mean they're like 102 00:04:07,870 --> 00:04:05,760 you know every turn what do we do now 103 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:07,880 what do we do that it's like it's like 104 00:04:14,740 --> 00:04:10,890 hand-holding you know children it really 105 00:04:17,390 --> 00:04:14,750 is I swear to God but anyhow I digress I 106 00:04:20,090 --> 00:04:17,400 love them all dearly though that's the 107 00:04:22,670 --> 00:04:20,100 problem it's you know it's they're 108 00:04:25,130 --> 00:04:22,680 amazing researchers these guys are so 109 00:04:25,820 --> 00:04:25,140 amazing that you know there's like I 110 00:04:28,429 --> 00:04:25,830 can't 111 00:04:30,860 --> 00:04:28,439 help them how much stress they put me 112 00:04:33,110 --> 00:04:30,870 through they have no idea and they'll 113 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:33,120 never know and I'm never gonna tell them 114 00:04:36,770 --> 00:04:34,770 but I'll tell all you guys because they 115 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:36,780 never listened to the UFO show why would 116 00:04:41,450 --> 00:04:39,210 they ever listen to this show oh god 117 00:04:43,219 --> 00:04:41,460 just cracks me up I I was thinking about 118 00:04:46,429 --> 00:04:43,229 today that I could tell everybody a 119 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:46,439 moving fun world how crazy the JFK world 120 00:04:54,469 --> 00:04:51,330 is oh my god anyhow so um yeah the 121 00:04:57,439 --> 00:04:54,479 cheesecake conference DC JFK conference 122 00:04:59,540 --> 00:04:57,449 DC comm is coming up and I'm telling you 123 00:05:01,939 --> 00:04:59,550 guys this is gonna be so extraordinary 124 00:05:03,350 --> 00:05:01,949 now all the logistics are being taken 125 00:05:05,450 --> 00:05:03,360 care of I'm taking care of everything 126 00:05:07,999 --> 00:05:05,460 the websites up did you guys know the 127 00:05:10,129 --> 00:05:08,009 tickets are for sale please if you guys 128 00:05:12,409 --> 00:05:10,139 can get out there this week please try 129 00:05:14,180 --> 00:05:12,419 to be there because it is truly like 130 00:05:16,249 --> 00:05:14,190 I've been telling you for weeks now and 131 00:05:18,019 --> 00:05:16,259 I was in tears on Monday talking about 132 00:05:20,420 --> 00:05:18,029 it I have all mister crying now thinking 133 00:05:21,769 --> 00:05:20,430 about it I don't think in two or three 134 00:05:24,499 --> 00:05:21,779 years we're gonna have any more of these 135 00:05:28,129 --> 00:05:24,509 conferences it's just getting to the 136 00:05:29,959 --> 00:05:28,139 point where there's nobody seriously as 137 00:05:33,170 --> 00:05:29,969 interested as most of us that live 138 00:05:35,749 --> 00:05:33,180 through it and you have to have been 139 00:05:38,209 --> 00:05:35,759 bitten by the the there's something that 140 00:05:41,450 --> 00:05:38,219 happened to me on that day and I asked 141 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:41,460 every one of these researchers that the 142 00:05:46,219 --> 00:05:43,650 day that Kennedy was shot what happened 143 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:46,229 to you to make you do this the rest of 144 00:05:50,300 --> 00:05:48,330 your life you know that you found this 145 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:50,310 path it's the same thing I asked you if 146 00:05:57,079 --> 00:05:54,330 you're for researchers most of them saw 147 00:05:59,809 --> 00:05:57,089 something heard something we're told 148 00:06:02,719 --> 00:05:59,819 something or their father was involved 149 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:02,729 like st. John Hunt or they were the 150 00:06:07,519 --> 00:06:04,650 girlfriend of Lee Harvey Oswald like 151 00:06:09,619 --> 00:06:07,529 Judith Barry Baker or you know or 152 00:06:14,209 --> 00:06:09,629 something there's always some little 153 00:06:17,570 --> 00:06:14,219 trigger or a Hugh Clark the the Navy 154 00:06:21,950 --> 00:06:17,580 military guy that carried the casket and 155 00:06:24,980 --> 00:06:21,960 was the honor guard for JFK's you know 156 00:06:26,510 --> 00:06:24,990 burial and took the coffin and laid it 157 00:06:29,180 --> 00:06:26,520 in the grave and the whole bit but he 158 00:06:31,610 --> 00:06:29,190 also took the body to Bethesda boy his 159 00:06:34,430 --> 00:06:31,620 story something I'm telling you you know 160 00:06:35,719 --> 00:06:34,440 no one really knows this mo maybe you 161 00:06:39,110 --> 00:06:35,729 guys all do because you're pretty smart 162 00:06:39,410 --> 00:06:39,120 out there but when Hugh Clark and the 163 00:06:41,750 --> 00:06:39,420 rest 164 00:06:44,500 --> 00:06:41,760 the honor guard brought in the casket 165 00:06:47,300 --> 00:06:44,510 David Dennis David who is now deceased 166 00:06:50,090 --> 00:06:47,310 Jim Jenkins and a few other guys that 167 00:06:53,060 --> 00:06:50,100 were in there were taking a body to the 168 00:06:55,730 --> 00:06:53,070 morgue in a different casket and they 169 00:06:57,410 --> 00:06:55,740 were told that was JFK's body and so 170 00:06:59,870 --> 00:06:57,420 these guys are bringing in what they 171 00:07:02,540 --> 00:06:59,880 think is JFK's body and they got in a 172 00:07:04,910 --> 00:07:02,550 big fight there as you Clark tells it 173 00:07:07,190 --> 00:07:04,920 there was almost fisticuffs over the 174 00:07:09,530 --> 00:07:07,200 fact that they didn't have the body that 175 00:07:11,690 --> 00:07:09,540 they had the body and this was it was a 176 00:07:14,540 --> 00:07:11,700 big big argument in the hallway for 177 00:07:16,340 --> 00:07:14,550 about 10 minutes seriously and they 178 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:16,350 weren't allowed to open the coffin see 179 00:07:20,630 --> 00:07:18,690 there's nobody there that was this is 180 00:07:22,610 --> 00:07:20,640 the part that kills me I was telling you 181 00:07:25,340 --> 00:07:22,620 seriously guys just didn't open it and 182 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:25,350 look you know but they were all you know 183 00:07:31,580 --> 00:07:28,530 staunch military guys that would not 184 00:07:33,350 --> 00:07:31,590 break protocol and none of them were you 185 00:07:36,140 --> 00:07:33,360 know high enough and rank to open those 186 00:07:37,940 --> 00:07:36,150 coffins so it was just hysterical I mean 187 00:07:40,250 --> 00:07:37,950 I'm this I laughed at this day about 188 00:07:42,380 --> 00:07:40,260 that it's not funny bit but it's funny 189 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:42,390 in a weird way because it's like what a 190 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:45,090 crazy conspiracy theory we got two 191 00:07:49,940 --> 00:07:47,610 different factions of gentlemen both all 192 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:49,950 serving in the military both say they 193 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:52,410 have the body of JFK that you guys never 194 00:07:56,900 --> 00:07:53,850 heard that one before 195 00:07:58,760 --> 00:07:56,910 it's pretty wild so anyhow he's gonna be 196 00:08:01,040 --> 00:07:58,770 there speaking and you know these guys 197 00:08:02,570 --> 00:08:01,050 are not spring chickens I don't know how 198 00:08:05,030 --> 00:08:02,580 many more times I have to say it 199 00:08:08,170 --> 00:08:05,040 everybody if you're interested in seeing 200 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:08,180 the people that were there Judith you 201 00:08:13,340 --> 00:08:11,370 st. John hunt experienced a lot with his 202 00:08:16,010 --> 00:08:13,350 father I mean we have a few more 203 00:08:17,780 --> 00:08:16,020 witnesses we have Oh God was just added 204 00:08:20,930 --> 00:08:17,790 this week there's a witness that none of 205 00:08:23,660 --> 00:08:20,940 us have ever gotten out in public before 206 00:08:27,170 --> 00:08:23,670 and they're gonna make an appearance at 207 00:08:29,150 --> 00:08:27,180 our conference so we've got another one 208 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:29,160 coming out of the woodwork there's a lot 209 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:31,410 of people who have never spoken and 210 00:08:37,670 --> 00:08:33,450 they're all in their late 80s most of 211 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:37,680 them are in mid 80s now and they're 212 00:08:42,680 --> 00:08:40,650 dying and they're like okay I guess it's 213 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:42,690 time I talk cuz you know my family is 214 00:08:47,450 --> 00:08:44,610 gonna live I guess through this or 215 00:08:49,970 --> 00:08:47,460 whatever most of them were threatened a 216 00:08:52,220 --> 00:08:49,980 lot of them are dead there's just it's 217 00:08:53,269 --> 00:08:52,230 crazy I don't know where to start with 218 00:08:55,579 --> 00:08:53,279 all this but 219 00:08:57,139 --> 00:08:55,589 telling you guys there may not be any 220 00:08:59,629 --> 00:08:57,149 more of these so if you can make it 221 00:09:02,840 --> 00:08:59,639 there the price is so affordable I told 222 00:09:05,569 --> 00:09:02,850 the guys I said you're just doing this 223 00:09:07,490 --> 00:09:05,579 to break-even and you're making it 224 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:07,500 affordable so people can get there 225 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:10,410 because this is so important you know so 226 00:09:13,999 --> 00:09:11,610 that's what we did 227 00:09:19,189 --> 00:09:14,009 I'm not going to tell you how much we're 228 00:09:20,929 --> 00:09:19,199 not getting paid and the bad parts of 229 00:09:23,569 --> 00:09:20,939 the story but the good parts of the 230 00:09:26,780 --> 00:09:23,579 story are is this you guys can afford to 231 00:09:28,579 --> 00:09:26,790 be there and it's gonna be extraordinary 232 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:28,589 seriously extraordinary they found some 233 00:09:32,269 --> 00:09:30,569 new stuff in the archives that were 234 00:09:34,670 --> 00:09:32,279 released on August 26 that they're gonna 235 00:09:37,220 --> 00:09:34,680 release for the first time it's gonna be 236 00:09:38,629 --> 00:09:37,230 phenomenal I don't I don't know how to 237 00:09:40,910 --> 00:09:38,639 tell you guys I've only heard a little 238 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:40,920 bits and pieces about it because I've 239 00:09:44,569 --> 00:09:42,810 been too busy to sit on the phone with 240 00:09:45,889 --> 00:09:44,579 anybody for any length of time to find 241 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:45,899 out what's really going on 242 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:47,730 I just said look surprise me at the 243 00:09:57,439 --> 00:09:54,930 conference I'm too busy call me later I 244 00:09:59,929 --> 00:09:57,449 don't know how else to tell you this is 245 00:10:02,299 --> 00:09:59,939 my last show before I fly off next week 246 00:10:05,420 --> 00:10:02,309 I will be in a plane heading to to 247 00:10:08,269 --> 00:10:05,430 Washington DC and I'm telling you if you 248 00:10:12,439 --> 00:10:08,279 can get there please do it it is so 249 00:10:14,269 --> 00:10:12,449 important so important that's I can't I 250 00:10:17,030 --> 00:10:14,279 can't even put this into words how 251 00:10:18,650 --> 00:10:17,040 important this is so there you go okay 252 00:10:20,540 --> 00:10:18,660 I'm gonna leave that one at that now the 253 00:10:22,369 --> 00:10:20,550 other one that's super important if 254 00:10:26,090 --> 00:10:22,379 you're out on the west coast or anywhere 255 00:10:29,780 --> 00:10:26,100 they can get on a you know a $99 JetBlue 256 00:10:32,150 --> 00:10:29,790 or whatever get to UFO con - because 257 00:10:33,889 --> 00:10:32,160 again this is the first conference of 258 00:10:37,369 --> 00:10:33,899 the year since disclosure 259 00:10:40,189 --> 00:10:37,379 besides UFO Congress but you did address 260 00:10:43,999 --> 00:10:40,199 it in a way and they did acknowledge it 261 00:10:47,389 --> 00:10:44,009 and they did have a set recorded piece 262 00:10:51,350 --> 00:10:47,399 with Lou Elizondo and it was very 263 00:10:56,900 --> 00:10:51,360 interesting but it's not going to be 264 00:10:59,929 --> 00:10:56,910 what we're doing what we're doing we're 265 00:11:02,120 --> 00:10:59,939 doing the history of the CIA involvement 266 00:11:03,860 --> 00:11:02,130 in you apology i I think that's 267 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:03,870 basically what it comes down to 268 00:11:10,340 --> 00:11:06,930 it's basically exposing the spooks 269 00:11:12,290 --> 00:11:10,350 and who's running your narrative of what 270 00:11:13,910 --> 00:11:12,300 you get to learn about you apology 271 00:11:15,980 --> 00:11:13,920 through the Pentagon through the spokes 272 00:11:18,140 --> 00:11:15,990 through the men in black through the FBI 273 00:11:20,780 --> 00:11:18,150 through whoever's in charge Department 274 00:11:22,850 --> 00:11:20,790 of Defense who you know the list goes on 275 00:11:25,460 --> 00:11:22,860 and on how many contractors they have 276 00:11:28,250 --> 00:11:25,470 and my favorite spook of them all I call 277 00:11:30,050 --> 00:11:28,260 him I tell everybody I have a map that 278 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:30,060 looks like the big you know the target 279 00:11:35,650 --> 00:11:33,210 logo and it's got all the players on it 280 00:11:39,410 --> 00:11:35,660 and they go out in circumference rings 281 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:39,420 around the center piece which I do not 282 00:11:45,350 --> 00:11:42,570 it's not Tom DeLonge and it's not jimsim 283 00:11:47,300 --> 00:11:45,360 van and it's not any of those guys my 284 00:11:49,310 --> 00:11:47,310 centerpiece is the guy wearing a Darth 285 00:11:54,260 --> 00:11:49,320 Vader outfit and his little face is 286 00:11:56,930 --> 00:11:54,270 pasted on there is Bob Bigelow because 287 00:11:59,360 --> 00:11:56,940 he truly is the Darth Vader of it well 288 00:12:00,650 --> 00:11:59,370 you know what there's one more guy that 289 00:12:02,390 --> 00:12:00,660 could be the Darth Vader but I'm not 290 00:12:04,310 --> 00:12:02,400 gonna mention his name that's for the 291 00:12:06,530 --> 00:12:04,320 conference and you guys have to be there 292 00:12:08,690 --> 00:12:06,540 to get that one because man I'm telling 293 00:12:10,970 --> 00:12:08,700 me we're gonna blow the lid off of you f 294 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:10,980 ology at this conference and the rest of 295 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:12,810 the conference is all year-long 296 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:14,970 I can guarantee you this they will 297 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:16,890 acquiesce to whatever to the Stars 298 00:12:22,100 --> 00:12:19,890 Academy is feeding them they will have 299 00:12:24,710 --> 00:12:22,110 their spokespeople there they will do 300 00:12:26,570 --> 00:12:24,720 whatever to the Stars tells them Tom 301 00:12:29,420 --> 00:12:26,580 DeLonge will show up as a special guest 302 00:12:32,270 --> 00:12:29,430 you'll get all that you'll get oh isn't 303 00:12:36,829 --> 00:12:32,280 this so lovely isn't this amazing you 304 00:12:38,750 --> 00:12:36,839 know uh kumbaya kumbaya you fo you're 305 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:38,760 gonna get all that but you're not gonna 306 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:41,130 get the truth you'll get the truth of my 307 00:12:46,579 --> 00:12:43,170 conference so you guys better be there 308 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:46,589 it's see a UFO can calm and I'm telling 309 00:12:52,370 --> 00:12:48,810 ya I it's just gonna blow people away 310 00:12:56,930 --> 00:12:52,380 and I I am NOT live-streaming my event 311 00:12:58,730 --> 00:12:56,940 this year I I've decided that I don't 312 00:13:01,100 --> 00:12:58,740 know what I'm gonna do I'm probably 313 00:13:03,650 --> 00:13:01,110 gonna do an on-demand at the end of the 314 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:03,660 at the end of the day it'll try B on 315 00:13:08,180 --> 00:13:05,610 demand you might be able to get it later 316 00:13:10,460 --> 00:13:08,190 I make hold on to it I may sit on it for 317 00:13:13,310 --> 00:13:10,470 a while I am not quite sure what I'm 318 00:13:15,410 --> 00:13:13,320 gonna do with this information so anyhow 319 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:15,420 so there you go so get the see a UFO 320 00:13:19,699 --> 00:13:18,930 Conn comm check that out it is truly is 321 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:19,709 going to be amazing 322 00:13:22,310 --> 00:13:20,610 oh and 323 00:13:26,060 --> 00:13:22,320 I have to coughs oh I'm gonna hit the 324 00:13:29,210 --> 00:13:26,070 bun for a second there we going back see 325 00:13:29,900 --> 00:13:29,220 how quick I could do that um let's see 326 00:13:32,660 --> 00:13:29,910 what 327 00:13:34,819 --> 00:13:32,670 oh yeah the other part to the conference 328 00:13:36,829 --> 00:13:34,829 that I think is beyond extraordinary Oh 329 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:36,839 we added Barbara lay on this week she's 330 00:13:41,449 --> 00:13:38,610 not gonna be running our experience or 331 00:13:43,310 --> 00:13:41,459 groups at lunch which is just truly 332 00:13:44,780 --> 00:13:43,320 amazing you know I've got Misha Johnson 333 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:44,790 running the experience of groups at 334 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:47,370 night during dinner so we've got these 335 00:13:51,199 --> 00:13:49,890 little sit down you sign up for them 336 00:13:52,310 --> 00:13:51,209 we're doing a little different I'm gonna 337 00:13:54,110 --> 00:13:52,320 throw this and they were doing it a 338 00:13:57,680 --> 00:13:54,120 little different you're gonna meet in 339 00:13:59,420 --> 00:13:57,690 the the lobby of the hotel cuz I don't 340 00:14:01,250 --> 00:13:59,430 really have a room for it we may put you 341 00:14:04,009 --> 00:14:01,260 in the conference room during the lunch 342 00:14:06,949 --> 00:14:04,019 and dinner breaks but what we're asking 343 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:06,959 people to do is you know maybe bring a 344 00:14:11,630 --> 00:14:10,290 sack lunch or a sack dinner and when you 345 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:11,640 get to the conference know you're gonna 346 00:14:16,220 --> 00:14:14,850 be at the experiencer group and we're 347 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:16,230 gonna have a sign-up sheet where I keep 348 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:18,450 it limited to like 12 to 15 people and 349 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:22,290 that's it and per experience a group we 350 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:25,050 have for during the weekend so and if we 351 00:14:28,430 --> 00:14:26,730 don't have enough signups after the 352 00:14:30,769 --> 00:14:28,440 first day then you can sign up to go to 353 00:14:32,660 --> 00:14:30,779 two of them if you want so anyhow that's 354 00:14:35,509 --> 00:14:32,670 what we're gonna do so I do hope you 355 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:35,519 guys are prepared for that 356 00:14:40,460 --> 00:14:38,370 really amazing woman Barbara lamb I mean 357 00:14:42,439 --> 00:14:40,470 the best experience a group I've ever 358 00:14:44,150 --> 00:14:42,449 been to my entire life okay 359 00:14:46,850 --> 00:14:44,160 just had to throw that in there it truly 360 00:14:48,650 --> 00:14:46,860 was absolutely amazing she runs it in a 361 00:14:50,540 --> 00:14:48,660 way that makes you feel like you're not 362 00:14:52,850 --> 00:14:50,550 alone and that's what really matters 363 00:14:55,850 --> 00:14:52,860 when it comes to the UFO thing really 364 00:14:59,300 --> 00:14:55,860 matters so there's that then the other 365 00:15:03,380 --> 00:14:59,310 part to this is I did get Steve Coburn 366 00:15:05,389 --> 00:15:03,390 to show up which is thank God it's all I 367 00:15:07,699 --> 00:15:05,399 got to say he's our implant scanner he's 368 00:15:10,519 --> 00:15:07,709 the best there is he used to work with 369 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:10,529 Roger Leir he truly is a good guy for 370 00:15:15,139 --> 00:15:13,290 this and he's bringing his tent he's 371 00:15:16,939 --> 00:15:15,149 bringing his black lights he's bringing 372 00:15:18,860 --> 00:15:16,949 the whole bit and we're really going to 373 00:15:21,290 --> 00:15:18,870 you know see what we can find this year 374 00:15:26,750 --> 00:15:21,300 on people's bodies and I must say last 375 00:15:28,639 --> 00:15:26,760 year people were tell you guys I don't 376 00:15:32,630 --> 00:15:28,649 think it's I think Melinda told me not 377 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:32,640 to I may have said it but let's see if I 378 00:15:38,090 --> 00:15:34,170 can talk about it yeah my 379 00:15:40,430 --> 00:15:38,100 well she had Melinda Lesley had on she 380 00:15:42,590 --> 00:15:40,440 had green goo that was glowing on her 381 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:42,600 lips she also had it on her hands and 382 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:44,450 her arms and they were in the shape of 383 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:48,450 alien handprints on her arms and I yeah 384 00:15:54,170 --> 00:15:51,810 with her arms in her hand but she had a 385 00:15:55,819 --> 00:15:54,180 ring of it around her mouth as well but 386 00:15:58,519 --> 00:15:55,829 she had been drinking orange juice and 387 00:16:01,160 --> 00:15:58,529 orange juice can do that to you but we 388 00:16:03,769 --> 00:16:01,170 were teasing her you guys could just 389 00:16:06,199 --> 00:16:03,779 imagine well we were teasing her about 390 00:16:08,870 --> 00:16:06,209 if you had alien goo around your lips 391 00:16:13,009 --> 00:16:08,880 okay leaving it at that I'm not going 392 00:16:14,900 --> 00:16:13,019 any further it was quite a wild weekend 393 00:16:16,610 --> 00:16:14,910 when she started showing that picture 394 00:16:18,019 --> 00:16:16,620 around everybody look look see the 395 00:16:20,569 --> 00:16:18,029 aliens were on my body 396 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:20,579 another time I thought they were there 397 00:16:25,639 --> 00:16:23,010 we were cracking up because boy we 398 00:16:28,430 --> 00:16:25,649 really gave her a bad time but having 399 00:16:30,620 --> 00:16:28,440 said that you guys if you really think 400 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:30,630 that even you know getting abducted late 401 00:16:34,879 --> 00:16:32,610 leave yet things going on you want to 402 00:16:37,910 --> 00:16:34,889 check it out he really he gives you like 403 00:16:40,069 --> 00:16:37,920 a 50 page report about all the different 404 00:16:42,710 --> 00:16:40,079 devices and uses on your body to find 405 00:16:44,569 --> 00:16:42,720 these implants it's absolutely stunning 406 00:16:47,210 --> 00:16:44,579 I do hope you can make it for that alone 407 00:16:48,439 --> 00:16:47,220 okay so I digressed again like anywhere 408 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:48,449 what I was saying about it but I'm 409 00:16:54,050 --> 00:16:50,730 telling you oh yes the portals and 410 00:16:56,090 --> 00:16:54,060 Resendez super super important this is 411 00:17:00,199 --> 00:16:56,100 the next wave you know how we had the 412 00:17:02,780 --> 00:17:00,209 wave in the 50s with the oh dear I think 413 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:02,790 my guest is texting me let's see hold on 414 00:17:11,689 --> 00:17:05,730 but do my producer bid here by my side 415 00:17:16,309 --> 00:17:11,699 line producer oh yeah yes my guest will 416 00:17:19,370 --> 00:17:16,319 be calling in shortly so the whole thing 417 00:17:21,620 --> 00:17:19,380 that happened in the 50s with a damn ski 418 00:17:24,799 --> 00:17:21,630 and that crowd calling in the et 419 00:17:27,319 --> 00:17:24,809 Brothers and then the Billy Meyer flap 420 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:27,329 and then you know I mean it just goes on 421 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:29,730 and on we every 10 to 15 years we have a 422 00:17:35,659 --> 00:17:32,610 whole new genre the type of contact 423 00:17:38,060 --> 00:17:35,669 we're having well let me tell you the 424 00:17:40,940 --> 00:17:38,070 type of contact that people are having 425 00:17:44,780 --> 00:17:40,950 in Peru with the Zen dress we're you 426 00:17:47,120 --> 00:17:44,790 know 125 people walk into a different 427 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:47,130 dimensional time-space and have come and 428 00:17:50,330 --> 00:17:47,970 commune with 429 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:50,340 lenz I'm telling you folks this is the 430 00:17:54,289 --> 00:17:52,890 next wave of contact it's going to beat 431 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:54,299 the wave of contact 432 00:17:58,970 --> 00:17:56,610 the ships are gonna be a superfluous 433 00:18:00,950 --> 00:17:58,980 item at that point they're gonna become 434 00:18:02,990 --> 00:18:00,960 kind of like I'll gather watching us who 435 00:18:05,690 --> 00:18:03,000 cares let's go talk to him you know 436 00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:05,700 that's what it's going to be and we have 437 00:18:10,130 --> 00:18:08,130 one of the best guys who's doing that 438 00:18:13,730 --> 00:18:10,140 right now and that's in Ricky Villanueva 439 00:18:16,370 --> 00:18:13,740 and also grant Cameron has been doing 440 00:18:19,730 --> 00:18:16,380 research into this within Ricky 441 00:18:21,380 --> 00:18:19,740 Sixto Paz but quite a few other people 442 00:18:22,940 --> 00:18:21,390 that are doing it and he went up to 443 00:18:24,500 --> 00:18:22,950 Mount Shasta he's gonna give a report 444 00:18:26,870 --> 00:18:24,510 about what happened last time he was up 445 00:18:28,250 --> 00:18:26,880 there so it's really I talk about 446 00:18:31,010 --> 00:18:28,260 extraordinary absolutely extraordinary 447 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:31,020 and then one other thing that it's kind 448 00:18:36,169 --> 00:18:32,850 of like Bearden near and dear to my 449 00:18:39,110 --> 00:18:36,179 heart about the conference is Doug 450 00:18:41,570 --> 00:18:39,120 Douglas Hawes Douglas house is a 451 00:18:44,390 --> 00:18:41,580 complete unknown no one has a clue who 452 00:18:46,279 --> 00:18:44,400 this guy is he approached me about two 453 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:46,289 or three years ago and said hey do you 454 00:18:50,990 --> 00:18:48,690 know about cannot a mountain in the UFO 455 00:18:52,490 --> 00:18:51,000 lore that goes on there and legends and 456 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:52,500 stuff and I said no I haven't got a clue 457 00:18:58,220 --> 00:18:53,610 what are you talking about 458 00:19:00,890 --> 00:18:58,230 so he he took me up there and then I 459 00:19:02,899 --> 00:19:00,900 started oh my god it's just absolutely 460 00:19:04,789 --> 00:19:02,909 mind-boggling what this guy has done in 461 00:19:07,610 --> 00:19:04,799 research when it comes to what the 462 00:19:09,980 --> 00:19:07,620 cannot die legend is and he gave a great 463 00:19:13,399 --> 00:19:09,990 presentation last year and he's compiled 464 00:19:16,340 --> 00:19:13,409 all these books and DVDs and letters and 465 00:19:18,470 --> 00:19:16,350 fibia and audio tapes and and it's just 466 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:18,480 extraordinary story and I'm gonna be 467 00:19:22,730 --> 00:19:19,890 building a website where we're gonna 468 00:19:25,850 --> 00:19:22,740 house all the cannot die project Legend 469 00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:25,860 and lore on and I'm also going to help 470 00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:27,510 him with this new project he's working 471 00:19:33,529 --> 00:19:30,510 on called snake head point it's a place 472 00:19:37,279 --> 00:19:33,539 up near the High Sierras of Northern 473 00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:37,289 California on the way to Reno and there 474 00:19:43,789 --> 00:19:41,370 is supposedly a pyramid there and it's 475 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:43,799 kind of been buried by the mountain in 476 00:19:47,779 --> 00:19:45,450 the lava and God knows what but 477 00:19:50,149 --> 00:19:47,789 apparently there is a pyramid there and 478 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:50,159 it's weighed down in a ravine and then 479 00:19:55,430 --> 00:19:53,490 issue stepping into the area you can see 480 00:19:59,090 --> 00:19:55,440 the pyramid but you have to be down in 481 00:20:01,860 --> 00:19:59,100 this really deep ravine to see it and it 482 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:01,870 was also the place of a big UFO 483 00:20:09,180 --> 00:20:05,250 slap and a cult a UFO cult back in the 484 00:20:11,820 --> 00:20:09,190 70s I would believe and he's got a whole 485 00:20:15,450 --> 00:20:11,830 report on it and he's been there and 486 00:20:18,540 --> 00:20:15,460 he's also been transported because what 487 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:18,550 it does is its port 'old to the UFO 488 00:20:24,060 --> 00:20:21,250 people of that pyramid whoever built the 489 00:20:26,100 --> 00:20:24,070 pyramid and he got transported at one 490 00:20:28,380 --> 00:20:26,110 point when he was hiking and went down 491 00:20:30,450 --> 00:20:28,390 there and slept down there so he knows 492 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:30,460 it's real that it works and that it does 493 00:20:34,770 --> 00:20:32,170 thing and he's gonna do a whole report 494 00:20:37,140 --> 00:20:34,780 on that too and he's my bugling but of 495 00:20:38,580 --> 00:20:37,150 course you know the big conferences 496 00:20:40,890 --> 00:20:38,590 aren't gonna have them because he's not 497 00:20:43,799 --> 00:20:40,900 a known quantity he hasn't written 45 498 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:43,809 books and you know he's just not that 499 00:20:47,700 --> 00:20:46,210 guy right so but he's got more 500 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:47,710 information about some of the most 501 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:49,570 phenomenal things I've ever heard of in 502 00:20:54,180 --> 00:20:51,850 my entire life so there you go he's been 503 00:20:55,860 --> 00:20:54,190 researching for 30 years so you know I 504 00:20:57,540 --> 00:20:55,870 got him to speak last year he's speaking 505 00:21:00,660 --> 00:20:57,550 again this year and I'm just so blessed 506 00:21:02,790 --> 00:21:00,670 to have him and I love his work so yeah 507 00:21:04,799 --> 00:21:02,800 so you see things at UFO con you're not 508 00:21:08,549 --> 00:21:04,809 getting anywhere else so go check out 509 00:21:10,620 --> 00:21:08,559 see a UFO can calm that see a UFO can 510 00:21:13,530 --> 00:21:10,630 calm alright 511 00:21:20,190 --> 00:21:13,540 I think my guest has joined me Marshall 512 00:21:23,790 --> 00:21:20,200 Barnes are you there I can't I'm so glad 513 00:21:26,430 --> 00:21:23,800 your voice how are you doing I'm pretty 514 00:21:29,910 --> 00:21:26,440 burned out after a very very busy I'm 515 00:21:35,660 --> 00:21:29,920 gonna be weary for a series of events in 516 00:21:35,670 --> 00:21:42,650 because I'm gonna be there too really 517 00:21:50,190 --> 00:21:46,560 next week from the 9th through the 11th 518 00:21:53,490 --> 00:21:50,200 and I'm flying on late night on the 7th 519 00:22:04,650 --> 00:21:53,500 and back out on the 12th I'll be there 520 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:04,660 from 6 to 12 pretty much you know 521 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:07,890 Washington DC the downtown area and the 522 00:22:15,330 --> 00:22:11,050 there's a website people can go to see 523 00:22:24,930 --> 00:22:15,340 the scheduled event it's da the coders 524 00:22:27,060 --> 00:22:24,940 or exbc co2 Co de RS dot org and the 525 00:22:29,789 --> 00:22:27,070 full schedule these answers there 526 00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:29,799 there's three things I'm doing ones on 527 00:22:37,940 --> 00:22:34,720 Wednesday night there's on Thursday I 528 00:22:42,419 --> 00:22:37,950 thinking in the laughing on Sunday 529 00:22:44,730 --> 00:22:42,429 Sunday being the 11th alright okay now 530 00:22:47,879 --> 00:22:44,740 what's this what is it all about because 531 00:22:55,169 --> 00:22:47,889 it looks like do we live in a simulation 532 00:22:57,810 --> 00:22:55,179 is what you're doing on March AIDS great 533 00:23:07,529 --> 00:22:57,820 and then is time travel possible 534 00:23:21,889 --> 00:23:07,539 that's the season premiere timeless a 535 00:23:25,529 --> 00:23:21,899 big TV screen timeless 11:00 536 00:23:27,210 --> 00:23:25,539 and we got night oh I get it so you guys 537 00:23:29,850 --> 00:23:27,220 are just gonna put it up on a big screen 538 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:29,860 and go for it and watch it live I got it 539 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:34,090 I have to record it see what they do 540 00:23:38,220 --> 00:23:36,129 this year now do you think they'll last 541 00:23:40,289 --> 00:23:38,230 another year let's start with timeless 542 00:23:42,930 --> 00:23:40,299 let's just get you know right out of the 543 00:23:46,649 --> 00:23:42,940 gate what do you think it time was the 544 00:23:48,769 --> 00:23:46,659 TV show I think this show had a lot of 545 00:23:50,879 --> 00:23:48,779 promise but I think this John Ryan 546 00:23:52,769 --> 00:23:50,889 doesn't know what he's doing and that's 547 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:52,779 why it's there that can hold but then I 548 00:23:57,330 --> 00:23:55,570 got it renewed and I predicted the 549 00:23:59,460 --> 00:23:57,340 service will get canceled the fans 550 00:24:00,869 --> 00:23:59,470 wreaked out bad enough that they brought 551 00:24:03,869 --> 00:24:00,879 it back but he ain't bringing back for a 552 00:24:09,019 --> 00:24:03,879 fourth season and you know sizing 553 00:24:12,690 --> 00:24:09,029 basically it what it says is that if the 554 00:24:14,759 --> 00:24:12,700 ratings are high enough then yeah this 555 00:24:16,769 --> 00:24:14,769 show's over and the reason why the 556 00:24:17,909 --> 00:24:16,779 ratings won't be high it wouldn't behind 557 00:24:20,029 --> 00:24:17,919 us and reason why they weren't high 558 00:24:23,399 --> 00:24:20,039 enough the first time around because 559 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:23,409 they have inconsistencies it was obvious 560 00:24:29,220 --> 00:24:26,129 in the show in relation to time travel 561 00:24:31,650 --> 00:24:29,230 and it doesn't work though I mean it's a 562 00:24:34,590 --> 00:24:31,660 people were not stupid I mean some 563 00:24:37,470 --> 00:24:34,600 people are but I mean this is the first 564 00:24:39,450 --> 00:24:37,480 level goes a lot of people are 565 00:24:42,060 --> 00:24:39,460 understanding how this stuff is really 566 00:24:45,270 --> 00:24:42,070 going to work in terms of white paradox 567 00:24:47,159 --> 00:24:45,280 like a paradox it don't make any sense 568 00:24:49,710 --> 00:24:47,169 they all make sense mathematically or 569 00:24:56,130 --> 00:24:49,720 fine physically ranking like that so 570 00:24:58,140 --> 00:24:56,140 when you have dumb question who was the 571 00:25:04,500 --> 00:24:58,150 first person who thought of these stupid 572 00:25:05,970 --> 00:25:04,510 paradoxes because I can't three outcomes 573 00:25:09,210 --> 00:25:05,980 from science fiction but then the 574 00:25:11,490 --> 00:25:09,220 physicists didn't really rule it out 575 00:25:14,730 --> 00:25:11,500 because most of what they were looking 576 00:25:16,409 --> 00:25:14,740 at that he said well you know see the 577 00:25:19,350 --> 00:25:16,419 solution of paradoxes as parallel 578 00:25:22,260 --> 00:25:19,360 universes lot of physicists don't like 579 00:25:25,770 --> 00:25:22,270 to deal with that idea but it's the only 580 00:25:27,390 --> 00:25:25,780 way it works and now we accepted my 581 00:25:30,299 --> 00:25:27,400 presentation I'm gonna be doing and you 582 00:25:32,460 --> 00:25:30,309 see on parallel universes shows that we 583 00:25:34,230 --> 00:25:32,470 cannot prove that they're real it's not 584 00:25:37,590 --> 00:25:34,240 open to argument what we have physical 585 00:25:41,159 --> 00:25:37,600 evidence that from experiments to show 586 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:41,169 the parallel universes are real and so 587 00:25:49,830 --> 00:25:44,530 this all the whole thing is now shifted 588 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:49,840 I mean so in timeless Lucy we turn 589 00:25:54,150 --> 00:25:51,970 somewhere her trips you know when they 590 00:25:56,820 --> 00:25:54,160 did a time to hell thing to find that 591 00:25:58,260 --> 00:25:56,830 her mother who was ill cancer before is 592 00:26:01,710 --> 00:25:58,270 now okay 593 00:26:04,110 --> 00:26:01,720 and now her sister is missing and in an 594 00:26:06,750 --> 00:26:04,120 episode which doesn't make any sense 595 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:06,760 because here's the thing if things 596 00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:09,010 change for her then they would have to 597 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:11,049 change for everyone else because it's 598 00:26:15,539 --> 00:26:13,570 about the geometry of the time that way 599 00:26:19,669 --> 00:26:15,549 of that it's not what individual people 600 00:26:22,970 --> 00:26:19,679 do and and so there's all they had this 601 00:26:26,310 --> 00:26:22,980 this woman and her name is Gia 602 00:26:29,940 --> 00:26:26,320 explaining to her that on this timeline 603 00:26:32,789 --> 00:26:29,950 where they are why her father isn't 604 00:26:34,380 --> 00:26:32,799 really her father from before and I was 605 00:26:36,810 --> 00:26:34,390 thinking ya know what 606 00:26:41,159 --> 00:26:36,820 this is pretty easy to solve right now 607 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:41,169 it's called a DNA test you know and so 608 00:26:46,540 --> 00:26:42,410 it was 609 00:26:48,490 --> 00:26:46,550 the DNA would not be different okay he 610 00:26:52,210 --> 00:26:48,500 wouldn't change and it wouldn't match up 611 00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:52,220 to scenario he was telling her because 612 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:54,710 her father would still be if they want 613 00:26:59,800 --> 00:26:56,810 so these wires have their head there but 614 00:27:02,470 --> 00:26:59,810 now they don't know they're doing but 615 00:27:05,110 --> 00:27:02,480 they like they do and actually get to me 616 00:27:08,500 --> 00:27:05,120 it's like she'll have a malcolm barrett 617 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:08,510 he plays the black guy on the show he 618 00:27:13,090 --> 00:27:11,210 was on this podcast bragging about his 619 00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:13,100 only personal knowledge of time travel 620 00:27:20,710 --> 00:27:17,510 which is this horrible I mean he didn't 621 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:20,720 have a single complete comprehensive 622 00:27:25,540 --> 00:27:23,330 sentence of time tell us something he 623 00:27:28,750 --> 00:27:25,550 talks about so I read an article about 624 00:27:31,420 --> 00:27:28,760 it for futurism dot media and then I 625 00:27:34,390 --> 00:27:31,430 told him about it on Twitter and in any 626 00:27:36,580 --> 00:27:34,400 sort of wine he said oh you know you got 627 00:27:39,190 --> 00:27:36,590 me I'm not a quantum physicist but the 628 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:39,200 people on lost lost either and it wasn't 629 00:27:45,730 --> 00:27:42,170 about his character about she said that 630 00:27:47,890 --> 00:27:45,740 he he can tell was a geek and that he 631 00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:47,900 would run to this time tell us stuff so 632 00:27:52,570 --> 00:27:50,240 she knew enough about it so when fans 633 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:52,580 are shaking me and they try to say well 634 00:27:57,100 --> 00:27:54,650 this wouldn't work did you tell them you 635 00:28:02,920 --> 00:27:57,110 know no you can't tell me that I'm like 636 00:28:05,890 --> 00:28:02,930 what so you think so he lied about his 637 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:05,900 knowledge and then you lied about how I 638 00:28:14,410 --> 00:28:08,770 caught him and walking why I caught him 639 00:28:16,060 --> 00:28:14,420 so they're back stepping every step of 640 00:28:17,710 --> 00:28:16,070 the way with that TV show and I know 641 00:28:22,090 --> 00:28:17,720 what you're talking about because I've 642 00:28:24,310 --> 00:28:22,100 watched every episode and I am truly by 643 00:28:26,170 --> 00:28:24,320 the third episode I'm going where we got 644 00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:26,180 problems already and then it just got 645 00:28:30,580 --> 00:28:28,640 worse and worse and worse and then by 646 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:30,590 the last one I was like oh my god 647 00:28:39,730 --> 00:28:32,050 they're like we're in the right period 648 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:39,740 costumes anymore you said that because 649 00:28:44,020 --> 00:28:42,410 I've tracked the ratings of the show and 650 00:28:46,180 --> 00:28:44,030 right about the time you were saying 651 00:28:47,890 --> 00:28:46,190 that it was you would be certain it was 652 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:47,900 getting really bad that's when the 653 00:28:51,970 --> 00:28:49,850 ratings are dropping off that's why I 654 00:28:55,990 --> 00:28:51,980 got in trouble that won't make it worth 655 00:28:59,230 --> 00:28:56,000 that Sean Ryan the co-producer 656 00:29:02,080 --> 00:28:59,240 please out on Twitter and he was dissing 657 00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:02,090 count rebel fans okay you were saying 658 00:29:07,990 --> 00:29:05,420 well well the writers of Primus we take 659 00:29:12,610 --> 00:29:08,000 our time-travel rules very seriously 660 00:29:14,620 --> 00:29:12,620 and for science and doesn't exist do 661 00:29:17,110 --> 00:29:14,630 time hello fans you really know what the 662 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:17,120 rules are supposed to be kinda like we 663 00:29:20,980 --> 00:29:19,730 are science it doesn't exist I mean I'm 664 00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:20,990 just I'm saying these people their heads 665 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:22,310 up there but I don't know what they're 666 00:29:28,510 --> 00:29:24,530 doing and that's the only reason one 667 00:29:31,810 --> 00:29:28,520 show suffers because they don't care you 668 00:29:34,030 --> 00:29:31,820 know that's just yeah yes you can really 669 00:29:36,250 --> 00:29:34,040 get there they're truly in it to make 670 00:29:38,350 --> 00:29:36,260 money and it's obvious you know by the 671 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:38,360 fourth episode I'm going wait this is 672 00:29:42,460 --> 00:29:40,610 all about money now I thought it would 673 00:29:46,330 --> 00:29:42,470 really be about time travel but it's not 674 00:29:48,580 --> 00:29:46,340 so oh yeah we didn't marshal we didn't 675 00:29:51,070 --> 00:29:48,590 do this I forgot to tell people who you 676 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:51,080 are you're an advanced concept R&D 677 00:29:56,470 --> 00:29:54,530 engineer and conceptual theorist and I 678 00:30:00,190 --> 00:29:56,480 just want people to know that because 679 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:00,200 and your friend of mine and um we could 680 00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:02,930 go into all of the your past history but 681 00:30:07,810 --> 00:30:04,880 I think people have heard you enough on 682 00:30:09,220 --> 00:30:07,820 coast to coast year my other radio shows 683 00:30:11,770 --> 00:30:09,230 that they probably have a very good idea 684 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:11,780 who you are but you are our only true 685 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:13,010 trying cab 686 00:30:17,860 --> 00:30:16,010 time travel guy right now out there that 687 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:17,870 I could call and say what do you think 688 00:30:23,110 --> 00:30:19,850 of this and you will tell me you know 689 00:30:25,150 --> 00:30:23,120 and I get the straight facts instead of 690 00:30:27,610 --> 00:30:25,160 this crazy you know will we're going to 691 00:30:28,990 --> 00:30:27,620 split off into 500 million dimensions 692 00:30:32,740 --> 00:30:29,000 and you're gonna be living in you know 693 00:30:34,390 --> 00:30:32,750 three universes and so by the time I'm 694 00:30:36,730 --> 00:30:34,400 done I don't know what you know where I 695 00:30:38,860 --> 00:30:36,740 am anymore so you're the only one who's 696 00:30:40,810 --> 00:30:38,870 ever kept me you know really grounded in 697 00:30:42,220 --> 00:30:40,820 the whole time-travel concept and I 698 00:30:45,970 --> 00:30:42,230 really want to thank you for that 699 00:30:47,620 --> 00:30:45,980 so me me out that's what you do and we 700 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:47,630 could go into all the the other stuff 701 00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:49,130 he's done but we got so much stuff to 702 00:30:53,290 --> 00:30:50,720 get to tonight I kind of want to keep 703 00:30:55,180 --> 00:30:53,300 going through this so at the time a 704 00:31:02,020 --> 00:30:55,190 timeless for just one more you know a 705 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:02,030 little bit of time yeah what why do you 706 00:31:05,430 --> 00:31:03,530 think they even brought it back at all I 707 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:05,440 mean what's the point why bring back 708 00:31:13,490 --> 00:31:10,250 what is that what happened with that 709 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:13,500 first of all show producers maybe the 710 00:31:16,610 --> 00:31:14,730 one thing that they were going to make 711 00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:16,620 it that they were gonna get remade and 712 00:31:20,930 --> 00:31:19,200 then they didn't and but close to the 713 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:20,940 time that it came out they were not 714 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:23,130 getting renewed I was thinking you know 715 00:31:28,190 --> 00:31:26,970 what this thing gonna work and then when 716 00:31:31,250 --> 00:31:28,200 the announcement was made they got 717 00:31:33,950 --> 00:31:31,260 canceled the fans just went had a hissy 718 00:31:37,070 --> 00:31:33,960 fit and it's not even like majority of 719 00:31:40,790 --> 00:31:37,080 people because remember the ratings had 720 00:31:43,250 --> 00:31:40,800 gone down anyway okay and so the result 721 00:31:45,230 --> 00:31:43,260 was just a small minority of people I 722 00:31:48,350 --> 00:31:45,240 can either just kind of like you know 723 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:48,360 fanatics about the show and so they do a 724 00:31:54,260 --> 00:31:51,690 hissy fit and so the network decided 725 00:31:57,020 --> 00:31:54,270 well we're gonna go ahead and wall ran 726 00:32:00,350 --> 00:31:57,030 back next year and I'll give them 10 727 00:32:10,970 --> 00:32:00,360 episodes which is like I think half a 728 00:32:12,470 --> 00:32:10,980 season right okay pan okay but I think 729 00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:12,480 let's see this turned out I think with 730 00:32:17,570 --> 00:32:14,910 20 or something so it's like half a 731 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:17,580 season so basically what that tells me 732 00:32:23,060 --> 00:32:19,890 is that unless those ratings are really 733 00:32:25,250 --> 00:32:23,070 high then they've just given them enough 734 00:32:30,350 --> 00:32:25,260 time to finish out the storyline of the 735 00:32:33,050 --> 00:32:30,360 show and that's it yeah and and if they 736 00:32:35,180 --> 00:32:33,060 continue wait and the same way they had 737 00:32:39,260 --> 00:32:35,190 before I don't think they're gonna do 738 00:32:43,330 --> 00:32:39,270 that third season I really do but do not 739 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:43,340 get me wrong but I usually I'm not wrong 740 00:32:47,990 --> 00:32:46,290 well you know I love time travel shows 741 00:32:49,910 --> 00:32:48,000 they're they're my favorite shows out 742 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:49,920 there they're the ones I watch all the 743 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:52,970 time I watched all the sci-fi ones 744 00:32:58,310 --> 00:32:57,690 continuum as my favorite one it kind of 745 00:33:03,980 --> 00:32:58,320 money 746 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:03,990 I love twelve Monkeys yeah the TV show I 747 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:05,970 thought it was great it wasn't really 748 00:33:13,790 --> 00:33:09,210 true to time travel form it wasn't as 749 00:33:15,950 --> 00:33:13,800 bad as timeless timeless lost me after 750 00:33:18,290 --> 00:33:15,960 the third one it took about a season for 751 00:33:19,940 --> 00:33:18,300 me to realize that no matter what they 752 00:33:22,470 --> 00:33:19,950 were doing they're still screwing up the 753 00:33:25,049 --> 00:33:22,480 timeline the hope you know there is no 754 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:25,059 paradox so they keep bringing that up in 755 00:33:29,370 --> 00:33:27,850 there but but what they were do is very 756 00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:29,380 interesting I like the fact that they 757 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:32,880 kept going back and finding themselves 758 00:33:37,890 --> 00:33:35,530 at different ages and different times 759 00:33:39,690 --> 00:33:37,900 and you know it was really fun and I 760 00:33:43,289 --> 00:33:39,700 really enjoyed it now did they cancel 761 00:33:49,890 --> 00:33:43,299 that one - yeah what happened was I 762 00:33:53,010 --> 00:33:49,900 think I didn't see you got a TV verse 763 00:33:55,260 --> 00:33:53,020 and I'm like oh god you know I I liked 764 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:55,270 the movie I was just like I just 765 00:34:01,169 --> 00:33:57,250 couldn't see it's a TV show but then 766 00:34:05,130 --> 00:34:01,179 they had this like bins weekend I think 767 00:34:07,350 --> 00:34:05,140 this is back in 2016 and I saw part of 768 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:07,360 that I'm like whoa and that's watching 769 00:34:12,510 --> 00:34:10,090 more episodes and I was like okay this 770 00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:12,520 is pretty good I mean I don't like the 771 00:34:19,470 --> 00:34:16,000 faculty they made they personified Tong 772 00:34:20,970 --> 00:34:19,480 and maybe that person and I mean I was 773 00:34:24,270 --> 00:34:20,980 in that bus figured out what the heck 774 00:34:25,889 --> 00:34:24,280 it's kind of saying anything but along 775 00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:25,899 the other stuff I really thought it was 776 00:34:30,450 --> 00:34:28,510 really interesting I got to be hooked on 777 00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:30,460 the show and it was um 778 00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:33,129 it was I got to see the last season is 779 00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:35,169 what they did they came out and did this 780 00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:37,419 huge being watching binge watching thing 781 00:34:41,909 --> 00:34:40,510 and then they had the last season which 782 00:34:46,460 --> 00:34:41,919 I can't remember what number that was 783 00:34:49,889 --> 00:34:46,470 but they played that as well and wow 784 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:49,899 that was really cool you know what I 785 00:34:54,450 --> 00:34:52,210 loved about it was that when I ever I 786 00:34:57,270 --> 00:34:54,460 watched the Machine that they're in and 787 00:35:00,320 --> 00:34:57,280 they disappear in that light I always 788 00:35:02,730 --> 00:35:00,330 think of you every time I watch that 789 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:02,740 because I think you know that's pretty 790 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:04,450 close to what Marshall keeps telling me 791 00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:07,690 about maybe that isn't so far-fetched 792 00:35:13,650 --> 00:35:10,960 you know but it was I saw that I was 793 00:35:17,430 --> 00:35:13,660 like you know there is a theoretical 794 00:35:20,820 --> 00:35:17,440 ways you could do that and then is 795 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:20,830 untimely I know what those bands are 796 00:35:24,660 --> 00:35:22,450 supposed to be doing it spinning around 797 00:35:26,670 --> 00:35:24,670 I knew what that is but I don't know 798 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:26,680 where they got the idea of doing it that 799 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:28,810 way but I know what that was what 800 00:35:32,550 --> 00:35:31,090 purpose that would serve you know if he 801 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:32,560 was trying to do machine like that for 802 00:35:36,270 --> 00:35:35,650 real so it's kind of funny when it shows 803 00:35:40,530 --> 00:35:36,280 that how 804 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:40,540 the conceptual stuff long comes up which 805 00:35:44,730 --> 00:35:42,130 they still come up with ways in which 806 00:35:48,330 --> 00:35:44,740 the engineering and technology can be 807 00:35:50,910 --> 00:35:48,340 right absolutely you know and the first 808 00:35:54,030 --> 00:35:50,920 time we saw those the bands around the 809 00:35:56,460 --> 00:35:54,040 circular craft type of thing spinning it 810 00:36:01,500 --> 00:35:56,470 and and gyrating or whatever they're 811 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:01,510 doing was in contact with Jodie Foster 812 00:36:10,530 --> 00:36:07,090 oh yes were those were not those were in 813 00:36:13,790 --> 00:36:10,540 the vicinity of the craft they weren't 814 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:13,800 actually on the craft oh that is right 815 00:36:21,359 --> 00:36:18,130 right exactly and so it's kind of a 816 00:36:24,930 --> 00:36:21,369 similar thing but not exactly saying the 817 00:36:29,460 --> 00:36:24,940 one in on the one they have in timeless 818 00:36:31,650 --> 00:36:29,470 is essentially and basically I would 819 00:36:35,370 --> 00:36:31,660 interpret it as creating a torsion 820 00:36:37,710 --> 00:36:35,380 effect whereby they can open up this you 821 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:37,720 know wormhole thing around the ship and 822 00:36:44,430 --> 00:36:41,290 it disappears according to Malcolm if 823 00:36:46,740 --> 00:36:44,440 you can believe him the average and say 824 00:36:48,839 --> 00:36:46,750 this one before on the show they're you 825 00:36:50,670 --> 00:36:48,849 know closed timelike curves but that's 826 00:36:53,790 --> 00:36:50,680 probably mad because close to my curves 827 00:36:57,359 --> 00:36:53,800 are not real they're mathematical thing 828 00:36:58,650 --> 00:36:57,369 that physicists discovered and there's a 829 00:37:01,770 --> 00:36:58,660 disagreement about how they would 830 00:37:04,140 --> 00:37:01,780 operate and I could go into like you 831 00:37:07,470 --> 00:37:04,150 know the between man lecture on them but 832 00:37:09,420 --> 00:37:07,480 it's you know real time travel does not 833 00:37:13,530 --> 00:37:09,430 involve course I my curves on me with 834 00:37:16,530 --> 00:37:13,540 that right right exactly now if you were 835 00:37:18,089 --> 00:37:16,540 to do a TV show I've always wanted to 836 00:37:21,630 --> 00:37:18,099 ask you this if you were gonna do a TV 837 00:37:24,329 --> 00:37:21,640 show what would be your mode of taking 838 00:37:26,940 --> 00:37:24,339 them to another time would it be light 839 00:37:28,349 --> 00:37:26,950 would it be the circumference rings or 840 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:28,359 whatever they're doing or would it be 841 00:37:33,359 --> 00:37:31,210 capsule would it be you know water I 842 00:37:35,220 --> 00:37:33,369 mean how would you get them there would 843 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:35,230 you build a chair like they did in 12 844 00:37:44,430 --> 00:37:41,650 monkeys no well we probably do is keep 845 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:44,440 us close to what we believe an actual 846 00:37:50,780 --> 00:37:45,970 functioning time machine would be like 847 00:37:52,770 --> 00:37:50,790 and they would have probably some kind 848 00:37:55,020 --> 00:37:52,780 either they would make it from scratch 849 00:37:57,180 --> 00:37:55,030 or they would take a car modified this 850 00:37:59,190 --> 00:37:57,190 would they have something to sit in you 851 00:38:02,750 --> 00:37:59,200 know it would be a v8 a vessel or video 852 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:02,760 or whatever and then they would realize 853 00:38:08,790 --> 00:38:05,530 the different components that you know 854 00:38:10,050 --> 00:38:08,800 were actually I mean building for the 855 00:38:12,990 --> 00:38:10,060 time machine research that we're doing 856 00:38:16,140 --> 00:38:13,000 and and we're going to really based on 857 00:38:18,090 --> 00:38:16,150 the idea of the participatory universe 858 00:38:21,510 --> 00:38:18,100 and calm account quantum mechanical 859 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:21,520 connects to that it would have something 860 00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:24,450 in it that like we call a sling drive 861 00:38:33,690 --> 00:38:29,730 sling drive is a laser apparatus that 862 00:38:37,140 --> 00:38:33,700 goes through this pulse sequences that 863 00:38:39,810 --> 00:38:37,150 then trigger the coherence of the 864 00:38:42,060 --> 00:38:39,820 universe I call mechanical level but 865 00:38:46,260 --> 00:38:42,070 this were all connected to it is that's 866 00:38:48,330 --> 00:38:46,270 a macroscopic level and and they would 867 00:38:50,460 --> 00:38:48,340 have something hooked up to it that 868 00:38:53,099 --> 00:38:50,470 would connect to the destination in the 869 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:53,109 past they want to go through and they 870 00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:55,570 would have a camera that would be 871 00:39:00,180 --> 00:38:57,850 connected to some kind of a sensor 872 00:39:03,630 --> 00:39:00,190 device and then it would be hooked up to 873 00:39:07,470 --> 00:39:03,640 the sling drive and what you want to do 874 00:39:09,060 --> 00:39:07,480 is when all sudden you make that jump or 875 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:09,070 that translation I shouldn't say it's a 876 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:12,130 jump when you may get translation or 877 00:39:17,370 --> 00:39:14,170 sudden you're not in the present anymore 878 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:17,380 you're in the past the change and the 879 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:20,650 visual surroundings the cane would see 880 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:23,530 would trigger the sensor just shut off 881 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:25,690 the sling drive so you don't just keep 882 00:39:35,460 --> 00:39:33,130 doing about like an XY coordinate in in 883 00:39:37,260 --> 00:39:35,470 this field you're generating that you 884 00:39:39,540 --> 00:39:37,270 know that at a certain point you've been 885 00:39:43,590 --> 00:39:39,550 you can measure it that says this is 886 00:39:47,730 --> 00:39:43,600 1979 I mean how do you guys get to that 887 00:39:53,630 --> 00:39:47,740 how do you even get to the past in that 888 00:39:57,359 --> 00:39:53,640 day okay what you're doing is you are 889 00:40:00,630 --> 00:39:57,369 causing into existence a parallel 890 00:40:04,020 --> 00:40:00,640 universe copy of the past and when it 891 00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:04,030 happens you're in it immediately and as 892 00:40:09,150 --> 00:40:06,640 so there are no problems with you know 893 00:40:11,790 --> 00:40:09,160 any therapy or the conservation of 894 00:40:14,850 --> 00:40:11,800 energy or any asset because that new 895 00:40:15,870 --> 00:40:14,860 universe copy of the past didn't exist 896 00:40:18,630 --> 00:40:15,880 without you in it 897 00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:18,640 anyway so it's not like role of 898 00:40:23,730 --> 00:40:20,560 introducing something new the Pascal in 899 00:40:25,260 --> 00:40:23,740 there before that's not it so as a 900 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:25,270 result that's what happens but well was 901 00:40:32,070 --> 00:40:29,170 hunting spying was that the camera will 902 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:32,080 see that what it was looking at is 903 00:40:36,690 --> 00:40:34,450 different man yeah as soon as that soon 904 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:36,700 as that difference happens that the 905 00:40:42,450 --> 00:40:39,210 sensor picks that up it triggers the 906 00:40:45,540 --> 00:40:42,460 shutdown of the swing drive so you're no 907 00:40:48,990 --> 00:40:45,550 longer you know making anything else 908 00:40:51,330 --> 00:40:49,000 happen it just stops me stop hiking with 909 00:40:52,610 --> 00:40:51,340 that idea a couple months ago because we 910 00:40:57,060 --> 00:40:52,620 had to figure out okay 911 00:40:59,610 --> 00:40:57,070 you know how do you even told us what he 912 00:41:02,970 --> 00:40:59,620 was how's it going to function way to 913 00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:02,980 figure out and test it and and because 914 00:41:11,220 --> 00:41:06,400 that's the danger with this this kind of 915 00:41:17,420 --> 00:41:11,230 activity is that if you we're gonna try 916 00:41:21,060 --> 00:41:17,430 to see if it would really work okay and 917 00:41:23,730 --> 00:41:21,070 we tried to go to the Past then thing is 918 00:41:25,290 --> 00:41:23,740 it's like if it worked BAM we're there 919 00:41:27,180 --> 00:41:25,300 and if we're not ready to be there were 920 00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:27,190 in trouble particular we can get back 921 00:41:32,550 --> 00:41:29,710 and so we had it we had to figure out a 922 00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:32,560 way okay how can we test this gradually 923 00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:35,680 and work up to the point where you know 924 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:38,110 we're we're ready we know that it should 925 00:41:44,010 --> 00:41:41,890 work and we should we can prepare for 926 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:44,020 all the things we're gonna have to do if 927 00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:45,850 we're going to go for real so that 928 00:41:52,530 --> 00:41:48,880 happens for real we're ready we're there 929 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:52,540 and and that's a whole nother ball wax 930 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:54,850 because this isn't a curse what we're 931 00:41:58,260 --> 00:41:57,490 planning doing it's not a tourist trip 932 00:42:05,130 --> 00:41:58,270 okay 933 00:42:06,690 --> 00:42:05,140 right this isn't timeless you're not 934 00:42:09,300 --> 00:42:06,700 going back there just to hang out and 935 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:09,310 come back to your time you are going 936 00:42:14,190 --> 00:42:12,490 there to to live and be in that time 937 00:42:16,620 --> 00:42:14,200 space and you have to make that decision 938 00:42:17,309 --> 00:42:16,630 you know - reminds me of did you ever 939 00:42:22,709 --> 00:42:17,319 see the 940 00:42:24,900 --> 00:42:22,719 Dover's no okay it's amazing show that 941 00:42:26,370 --> 00:42:24,910 was I can't remember what network it was 942 00:42:28,620 --> 00:42:26,380 on I watched the whole thing because it 943 00:42:30,479 --> 00:42:28,630 just intrigued the hell out of me and it 944 00:42:32,339 --> 00:42:30,489 was about I'm not going to it was all 945 00:42:34,519 --> 00:42:32,349 about but at the end of the the series 946 00:42:38,370 --> 00:42:34,529 it was about three or four years of 947 00:42:41,759 --> 00:42:38,380 lasted at the end of the series but in 948 00:42:44,459 --> 00:42:41,769 the very first episode people just 949 00:42:46,380 --> 00:42:44,469 disappeared they've just disappeared out 950 00:42:48,509 --> 00:42:46,390 of you know out of there out of this 951 00:42:50,969 --> 00:42:48,519 lady's womb off the street you know 952 00:42:53,189 --> 00:42:50,979 whatever people just disappeared and it 953 00:42:57,509 --> 00:42:53,199 turned out to be like an eighth of the 954 00:43:00,900 --> 00:42:57,519 population or a fourth of it and finally 955 00:43:02,910 --> 00:43:00,910 this one woman is so upset about losing 956 00:43:05,759 --> 00:43:02,920 her husband and her two children she's 957 00:43:08,699 --> 00:43:05,769 one of the ones that lost everybody that 958 00:43:10,709 --> 00:43:08,709 she finally meets up with a group of 959 00:43:13,439 --> 00:43:10,719 people that say we can take you to your 960 00:43:15,359 --> 00:43:13,449 family we know how to get there they 961 00:43:19,079 --> 00:43:15,369 were taking taken to a different 962 00:43:21,329 --> 00:43:19,089 dimension basically and so she goes to 963 00:43:24,269 --> 00:43:21,339 that dimension and finds out that in 964 00:43:26,670 --> 00:43:24,279 their reality they're the only ones left 965 00:43:28,829 --> 00:43:26,680 that they all disappeared so there's a 966 00:43:31,439 --> 00:43:28,839 very small population of people there 967 00:43:33,180 --> 00:43:31,449 and her husband has found another woman 968 00:43:35,039 --> 00:43:33,190 and what have you and then she has to go 969 00:43:37,709 --> 00:43:35,049 through this whole thing to get back to 970 00:43:39,539 --> 00:43:37,719 this timeline anyhow bottom line to it 971 00:43:42,359 --> 00:43:39,549 all was it was very intriguing how they 972 00:43:47,219 --> 00:43:42,369 did it they did it with water and her 973 00:43:50,339 --> 00:43:47,229 basically dying to get there so which 974 00:43:52,019 --> 00:43:50,349 was I found very interesting so and they 975 00:43:54,329 --> 00:43:52,029 said you know you're never coming back 976 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:54,339 and she made that decision and she went 977 00:43:59,430 --> 00:43:57,249 for it you know but it's very 978 00:44:03,539 --> 00:43:59,440 interesting interesting to me that you 979 00:44:05,819 --> 00:44:03,549 kind of have to you know in their world 980 00:44:07,529 --> 00:44:05,829 and the way they did it you had to let 981 00:44:22,799 --> 00:44:07,539 go of everything here including your 982 00:44:24,539 --> 00:44:22,809 life to get to that space so and you 983 00:44:26,130 --> 00:44:24,549 know and the thing about it it sounds 984 00:44:29,219 --> 00:44:26,140 really clean there's some people but 985 00:44:30,930 --> 00:44:29,229 this was based on the work in part of 986 00:44:34,349 --> 00:44:30,940 exe raha 987 00:44:38,819 --> 00:44:34,359 who's like the Israeli I think he's an 988 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:38,829 Israeli physicist through won a National 989 00:44:44,460 --> 00:44:40,930 Medal of Science Award like a couple 990 00:44:47,130 --> 00:44:44,470 years ago and he had the idea of a 991 00:44:49,500 --> 00:44:47,140 balloon and it's kind of complicated but 992 00:44:52,859 --> 00:44:49,510 the key part is he had some kind of 993 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:52,869 quantum quantum mechanical device and I 994 00:44:59,670 --> 00:44:56,050 was operating and I call it you know a 995 00:45:01,349 --> 00:44:59,680 quantum trigger and this balloon would 996 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:01,359 wouldn't take you back in time or 997 00:45:08,069 --> 00:45:04,690 whatever but it was easy or making you 998 00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:08,079 younger and it was just a theoretical 999 00:45:15,150 --> 00:45:11,200 thing but it was critical because when I 1000 00:45:18,329 --> 00:45:15,160 did my experiments and lecture causality 1001 00:45:20,490 --> 00:45:18,339 and now since I talked to you last week 1002 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:20,500 go ahead and I figure out an experiment 1003 00:45:26,190 --> 00:45:23,890 with the laser that would essentially 1004 00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:26,200 all it did was it proved the Emmett 1005 00:45:29,849 --> 00:45:27,609 wheeler hypothesis that parallel 1006 00:45:32,430 --> 00:45:29,859 universes the way that it was 1007 00:45:33,690 --> 00:45:32,440 interpreted and being that just you know 1008 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:33,700 you have these all these different 1009 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:36,490 possibilities and then when you take a 1010 00:45:40,829 --> 00:45:39,010 measurement what you get is what you see 1011 00:45:42,900 --> 00:45:40,839 here but the wrestling stone just a 1012 00:45:46,319 --> 00:45:42,910 parallel universe and were that's where 1013 00:45:47,910 --> 00:45:46,329 you are as well we were able to prove 1014 00:45:51,900 --> 00:45:47,920 that one and we're going to write that 1015 00:45:55,410 --> 00:45:51,910 up in a paper but the thing I wrote yeah 1016 00:46:00,030 --> 00:45:55,420 the thing I realize is that this can be 1017 00:46:02,190 --> 00:46:00,040 used as a trigger and I can I and we 1018 00:46:04,380 --> 00:46:02,200 could use that for a time machine but 1019 00:46:06,510 --> 00:46:04,390 how do we connect with the task and all 1020 00:46:09,630 --> 00:46:06,520 that and I figured it out can't talk 1021 00:46:12,140 --> 00:46:09,640 about it because it's be weaponized 1022 00:46:16,500 --> 00:46:12,150 all right but the thing about it is that 1023 00:46:18,569 --> 00:46:16,510 you know this is based on yeah you know 1024 00:46:21,210 --> 00:46:18,579 work of like you know just what we were 1025 00:46:23,790 --> 00:46:21,220 and that's here or horn off and even 1026 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:23,800 when you can concerning this cat where 1027 00:46:28,020 --> 00:46:25,930 you have the cat in a box the 1028 00:46:32,099 --> 00:46:28,030 radioactive material has a half-life of 1029 00:46:35,609 --> 00:46:32,109 you know 30 minutes or whatever and and 1030 00:46:37,980 --> 00:46:35,619 then depending on when that radioactive 1031 00:46:41,460 --> 00:46:37,990 material if it decays or definitely case 1032 00:46:44,370 --> 00:46:41,470 when I trigger this release of sleeping 1033 00:46:47,579 --> 00:46:44,380 gas we do this Peter person always do 1034 00:46:50,099 --> 00:46:47,589 and that gas is released a cat falls 1035 00:46:52,589 --> 00:46:50,109 asleep but until you're a boss you don't 1036 00:46:55,559 --> 00:46:52,599 know what you've got and it causes it 1037 00:46:58,499 --> 00:46:55,569 what they call a superposition and the 1038 00:47:01,680 --> 00:46:58,509 cat with the cat being both a lot when I 1039 00:47:03,769 --> 00:47:01,690 was that sewers no one is its dad sign I 1040 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:03,779 guess let's see you're alive or dead but 1041 00:47:11,849 --> 00:47:08,410 and the PIA verse and as I say the cat's 1042 00:47:13,739 --> 00:47:11,859 asleep and awake okay until you open a 1043 00:47:16,620 --> 00:47:13,749 box and you see it one way or the other 1044 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:16,630 but the alternate version still exists a 1045 00:47:23,789 --> 00:47:19,930 parallel universe that is that first 1046 00:47:25,589 --> 00:47:23,799 concert essentially because it's based 1047 00:47:28,769 --> 00:47:25,599 on something happening on a quantum 1048 00:47:31,319 --> 00:47:28,779 level but it's triggering a macroscopic 1049 00:47:32,219 --> 00:47:31,329 you that and that's essentially what 1050 00:47:34,469 --> 00:47:32,229 we're talking about 1051 00:47:38,210 --> 00:47:34,479 we've got a quantum mechanical device 1052 00:47:41,819 --> 00:47:38,220 set up so that it's going to trigger a 1053 00:47:45,059 --> 00:47:41,829 macroscopic you that and that's what's 1054 00:47:47,549 --> 00:47:45,069 so cool because there's so much science 1055 00:47:50,700 --> 00:47:47,559 behind how that would happen the only 1056 00:47:53,459 --> 00:47:50,710 tricky part it's connecting it to a past 1057 00:47:54,959 --> 00:47:53,469 event and I'll take it to the past well 1058 00:47:57,329 --> 00:47:54,969 because the universe is based on 1059 00:48:00,109 --> 00:47:57,339 information and it's a participatory 1060 00:48:03,959 --> 00:48:00,119 universe which is where we're comes in 1061 00:48:07,829 --> 00:48:03,969 and depending on what we do we should be 1062 00:48:08,579 --> 00:48:07,839 able to trigger that copy it come into 1063 00:48:11,489 --> 00:48:08,589 existence 1064 00:48:14,339 --> 00:48:11,499 now here's what come becomes fun for 1065 00:48:16,170 --> 00:48:14,349 your audience probably I'm sure most of 1066 00:48:21,209 --> 00:48:16,180 them know what synchronicity is right 1067 00:48:24,410 --> 00:48:21,219 thanks I hope so make sure that what we 1068 00:48:26,819 --> 00:48:24,420 know already from research 1069 00:48:29,099 --> 00:48:26,829 synchronicities can be created it can be 1070 00:48:29,940 --> 00:48:29,109 manipulated you can bring them into 1071 00:48:34,650 --> 00:48:29,950 existence 1072 00:48:37,410 --> 00:48:34,660 now because of that that is an example 1073 00:48:40,759 --> 00:48:37,420 of the participatory universe being 1074 00:48:43,319 --> 00:48:40,769 behind it reoccurs ran a petition said 1075 00:48:45,660 --> 00:48:43,329 that coincidences are part of a 1076 00:48:48,839 --> 00:48:45,670 first-class universe but when you have a 1077 00:48:52,170 --> 00:48:48,849 series of coincidences or 1078 00:48:54,630 --> 00:48:52,180 synchronicities in other words you can 1079 00:48:56,309 --> 00:48:54,640 see a five different coincidences but 1080 00:48:58,050 --> 00:48:56,319 they're all interrelated for all that 1081 00:49:00,450 --> 00:48:58,060 same thing then that 1082 00:49:03,660 --> 00:49:00,460 what he calls a meaningful arrangement 1083 00:49:06,300 --> 00:49:03,670 and that is when you know you've got 1084 00:49:09,230 --> 00:49:06,310 something well we did research that's in 1085 00:49:11,430 --> 00:49:09,240 the nineties into that we cared about 1086 00:49:13,410 --> 00:49:11,440 synchronicities unless it was had at 1087 00:49:16,230 --> 00:49:13,420 least three they were all interconnected 1088 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:16,240 all interrelated didn't we pay attention 1089 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:19,210 and then we liked high five and when 1090 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:22,810 they got to five or whatever but my key 1091 00:49:27,870 --> 00:49:25,930 thing is we we understood that it was 1092 00:49:32,210 --> 00:49:27,880 until later long like this in the last 1093 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:32,220 year I start to connect that to the 1094 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:33,970 functioning of the participatory 1095 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:36,610 universe so when these weird things 1096 00:49:42,810 --> 00:49:38,770 happen it's a participatory university 1097 00:49:46,470 --> 00:49:42,820 on it every from our model okay which is 1098 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:46,480 pretty consistent so what we need to do 1099 00:49:53,580 --> 00:49:50,170 is raise the probability that we will be 1100 00:49:56,730 --> 00:49:53,590 able to trigger into existence a 1101 00:49:59,010 --> 00:49:56,740 parallel universe copy of the past we 1102 00:50:00,840 --> 00:49:59,020 know it should be possible because it's 1103 00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:00,850 all information right now world 1104 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:03,250 information when the universe is foot 1105 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:05,290 and it's there on time if I split like 1106 00:50:11,450 --> 00:50:08,170 10,000 times moving on to the phone when 1107 00:50:13,350 --> 00:50:11,460 that happens the copies which are 1108 00:50:17,130 --> 00:50:13,360 possible because it's just all 1109 00:50:20,610 --> 00:50:17,140 information on a very basic level so 1110 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:20,620 it's only a difference between what the 1111 00:50:24,570 --> 00:50:21,970 way it normally happens where you 1112 00:50:26,190 --> 00:50:24,580 getting copies in the present and only 1113 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:26,200 thing we're trying to do now is get a 1114 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:29,290 copy of the past and that's it it's not 1115 00:50:36,300 --> 00:50:32,290 really that difficult particular you 1116 00:50:37,980 --> 00:50:36,310 know I I'm so interested in the way 1117 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:37,990 you're saying this right now because the 1118 00:50:42,570 --> 00:50:39,490 first time I've heard you talk about it 1119 00:50:44,940 --> 00:50:42,580 in this manner and what blows my mind is 1120 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:44,950 there is a guy that comes to all of our 1121 00:50:50,070 --> 00:50:47,410 like UFO and consciousness conferences 1122 00:50:54,350 --> 00:50:50,080 that says we're splitting all the time 1123 00:50:56,910 --> 00:50:54,360 and he thinks it's because of the aliens 1124 00:50:58,920 --> 00:50:56,920 no check this out Marshall you'll love 1125 00:51:01,290 --> 00:50:58,930 this he's built a device that you go sit 1126 00:51:03,330 --> 00:51:01,300 in this big old tent booth and it 1127 00:51:04,980 --> 00:51:03,340 flashes all these lights at you and it's 1128 00:51:09,090 --> 00:51:04,990 supposed to put all of your different 1129 00:51:11,460 --> 00:51:09,100 selves back together as one I don't know 1130 00:51:13,530 --> 00:51:11,470 if I'm laughing because it's so it seems 1131 00:51:15,839 --> 00:51:13,540 so preposterous but I've never done it 1132 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:15,849 but he walked up to me once and said you 1133 00:51:20,220 --> 00:51:17,890 know how many times you just split up in 1134 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:20,230 the last 30 seconds and I said knowing 1135 00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:22,210 those eight you just split up eight 1136 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:24,160 times I just saw it happening I'm like 1137 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:28,330 okay so maybe he's onto something what 1138 00:51:43,380 --> 00:51:41,170 do you think now of all the people and 1139 00:51:46,620 --> 00:51:43,390 all the things they're running around 1140 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:46,630 doing different things right now they're 1141 00:51:50,339 --> 00:51:48,490 splitting ever so many different times 1142 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:50,349 side is funny when he was on one 1143 00:51:57,589 --> 00:51:54,010 thousand eight thousands of times right 1144 00:52:01,170 --> 00:51:57,599 because every time here's what happened 1145 00:52:04,290 --> 00:52:01,180 over and that man or something okay 1146 00:52:06,450 --> 00:52:04,300 well somebody almost get shot the 1147 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:06,460 neighbor splits and one he did get shot 1148 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:07,570 maybe you didn't die 1149 00:52:13,410 --> 00:52:10,690 and then another one he did die and and 1150 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:13,420 the other one you didn't get shot at all 1151 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:16,690 okay so the thing is you each of those 1152 00:52:21,720 --> 00:52:20,290 ones were there as well so that split 1153 00:52:25,550 --> 00:52:21,730 like three or four different times 1154 00:52:28,050 --> 00:52:25,560 we're in each of those splits now 1155 00:52:29,940 --> 00:52:28,060 multiply that times all the people run 1156 00:52:32,099 --> 00:52:29,950 doing all kinds of stuff somebody gets 1157 00:52:35,310 --> 00:52:32,109 done with a near accident or in those 1158 00:52:38,250 --> 00:52:35,320 different splits to I mean it's the same 1159 00:52:39,900 --> 00:52:38,260 it's really crazy it's not like eight 1160 00:52:43,530 --> 00:52:39,910 different times you might split it's 1161 00:52:46,410 --> 00:52:43,540 like thousands of times because it works 1162 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:46,420 but nearest bites that we're doing you 1163 00:52:53,310 --> 00:52:50,530 know all right one of the things I did I 1164 00:52:55,170 --> 00:52:53,320 wrote this paper I'll call it changing 1165 00:52:57,720 --> 00:52:55,180 channel or changing worlds like TV 1166 00:53:00,690 --> 00:52:57,730 channels I did this experiment of money 1167 00:53:03,510 --> 00:53:00,700 to laser ones and I did it instead it's 1168 00:53:06,270 --> 00:53:03,520 like skiing off the laser you know and 1169 00:53:08,700 --> 00:53:06,280 different policy rates I did it to the 1170 00:53:11,670 --> 00:53:08,710 beat of scare song if I could turn that 1171 00:53:13,980 --> 00:53:11,680 time and I 1172 00:53:16,589 --> 00:53:13,990 I ran the audio while we were filming 1173 00:53:19,530 --> 00:53:16,599 it's all our experiments or film because 1174 00:53:21,780 --> 00:53:19,540 we have to analyze masane by frame in 1175 00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:21,790 order to see when we get what we call 1176 00:53:28,050 --> 00:53:24,730 the anomalous hits show up and you 1177 00:53:31,140 --> 00:53:28,060 it's in a detection area that appear 1178 00:53:33,720 --> 00:53:31,150 when there's no laser on and that that 1179 00:53:36,599 --> 00:53:33,730 indicates that we were now in a new 1180 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:36,609 parallel universe because cause of that 1181 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:41,410 laser hit is an original one and it's 1182 00:53:47,430 --> 00:53:45,010 what happens in what was so quit it's 1183 00:53:49,260 --> 00:53:47,440 based on these delays choice where they 1184 00:53:52,859 --> 00:53:49,270 call Vecchio causality experiments were 1185 00:53:55,530 --> 00:53:52,869 a photon goes down a certain path and 1186 00:53:58,770 --> 00:53:55,540 then they pop up a screen after a second 1187 00:54:01,079 --> 00:53:58,780 goes by and the photon says wait a 1188 00:54:03,930 --> 00:54:01,089 minute I should go the other way and it 1189 00:54:06,420 --> 00:54:03,940 ends up disappearing at this other 1190 00:54:07,710 --> 00:54:06,430 detector as if that's the way hadn't 1191 00:54:09,450 --> 00:54:07,720 gone originally but they know what it 1192 00:54:12,089 --> 00:54:09,460 didn't do that and so they say well 1193 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:12,099 we've changed the path okay well my 1194 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:14,410 research was okay let's see what the 1195 00:54:21,870 --> 00:54:17,770 real deal is on this and I filmed it and 1196 00:54:24,060 --> 00:54:21,880 all that and we get laser hits and now 1197 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:24,070 in these different places when there's 1198 00:54:28,890 --> 00:54:26,170 no laser on it just appears out of 1199 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:28,900 nowhere and it doesn't even like you'll 1200 00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:32,410 see like the laser pulse up here in a 1201 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:35,200 certain area and hit the detector 1202 00:54:41,579 --> 00:54:37,810 it's just a beauty tester so the user 1203 00:54:44,190 --> 00:54:41,589 says okay BAM this is the result you get 1204 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:44,200 because of what you did down here and so 1205 00:54:50,670 --> 00:54:47,650 that's really important so what I was 1206 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:50,680 amazed about I forgot to ask you about 1207 00:54:55,980 --> 00:54:53,170 that the laser hitting are you able to 1208 00:54:59,970 --> 00:54:55,990 measure where the laser hits are coming 1209 00:55:02,280 --> 00:54:59,980 from and in time no you're not coming 1210 00:55:04,140 --> 00:55:02,290 from anywhere that's all point we said 1211 00:55:07,500 --> 00:55:04,150 we said the same where we have a mirror 1212 00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:07,510 and I had so we could see all the ways 1213 00:55:13,829 --> 00:55:10,960 or activity that was happening and we 1214 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:13,839 had beam splitter setup and the beam 1215 00:55:20,550 --> 00:55:17,050 splitter would send the pulse you know 1216 00:55:23,180 --> 00:55:20,560 they had been split to an area below the 1217 00:55:26,309 --> 00:55:23,190 mirror right if you look at the mirror 1218 00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:26,319 you can see all the ways our activity 1219 00:55:32,690 --> 00:55:28,720 went on and in underneath it when the 1220 00:55:36,030 --> 00:55:32,700 beam when a post on a beam splitter was 1221 00:55:37,890 --> 00:55:36,040 reflected it was hit well in the area 1222 00:55:38,339 --> 00:55:37,900 below it in there please see everything 1223 00:55:45,660 --> 00:55:38,349 right 1224 00:55:48,029 --> 00:55:45,670 get laser hits below the mirror that 1225 00:55:50,789 --> 00:55:48,039 just appeared there and they didn't have 1226 00:55:53,489 --> 00:55:50,799 there's no laser activity in the mirror 1227 00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:53,499 from the other part of the room okay we 1228 00:56:01,410 --> 00:55:57,249 just got hit and we thought we could see 1229 00:56:04,289 --> 00:56:01,420 like I may be a laser thing happen and 1230 00:56:06,150 --> 00:56:04,299 you know downstream so to speak and then 1231 00:56:09,089 --> 00:56:06,160 they hit the hit the area above the 1232 00:56:11,849 --> 00:56:09,099 mirror what was it we just got hit that 1233 00:56:14,189 --> 00:56:11,859 the mirror even though you know it's 1234 00:56:16,289 --> 00:56:14,199 going on yeah they're just random hits 1235 00:56:19,219 --> 00:56:16,299 is what you're saying yeah but they were 1236 00:56:21,630 --> 00:56:19,229 hit the random hits without a cause 1237 00:56:24,299 --> 00:56:21,640 exactly was just there there was no 1238 00:56:26,969 --> 00:56:24,309 laser being fired so they do it and 1239 00:56:28,769 --> 00:56:26,979 there was no flash like also there's a 1240 00:56:32,009 --> 00:56:28,779 laser from over here and hit the wall no 1241 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:32,019 we just got hit at the wall and we got a 1242 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:35,170 number hit the wall yeah so what that 1243 00:56:41,370 --> 00:56:38,249 tells you is that this isn't something 1244 00:56:44,130 --> 00:56:41,380 coming under the universe 1245 00:56:50,699 --> 00:56:44,140 we're just now in it with the result of 1246 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:50,709 what what had happened we gotta take a 1247 00:56:53,729 --> 00:56:51,130 break 1248 00:56:56,309 --> 00:56:53,739 Marsha yeah yeah that we get back 1249 00:56:58,499 --> 00:56:56,319 because I just find the laser hit things 1250 00:57:00,809 --> 00:56:58,509 so fascinating so everybody stick around 1251 00:57:06,059 --> 00:57:00,819 we got more time travel coming in the 1252 00:57:08,099 --> 00:57:06,069 next hour so we'll be right back welcome 1253 00:57:09,959 --> 00:57:08,109 back everyone to the California MUFON 1254 00:57:11,759 --> 00:57:09,969 radio show I'm your host Lori inventing 1255 00:57:13,380 --> 00:57:11,769 so happy you guys are with us here 1256 00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:13,390 tonight we're talking time travel and 1257 00:57:17,459 --> 00:57:16,089 all kinds of scientific things that 1258 00:57:19,769 --> 00:57:17,469 Laureen has a hard time comprehending 1259 00:57:22,079 --> 00:57:19,779 but I'm really working on it I hope you 1260 00:57:25,170 --> 00:57:22,089 guys are enjoying yourself 1261 00:57:28,140 --> 00:57:25,180 you know Marshall was just talking about 1262 00:57:31,049 --> 00:57:28,150 the laser hits he was getting in their 1263 00:57:33,509 --> 00:57:31,059 experiment and I was saying I wondered 1264 00:57:35,789 --> 00:57:33,519 if he could measure them from coming 1265 00:57:38,489 --> 00:57:35,799 from a different time space or time or 1266 00:57:40,049 --> 00:57:38,499 different era in time how would you 1267 00:57:42,660 --> 00:57:40,059 measure where they're coming from and 1268 00:57:44,309 --> 00:57:42,670 then you explained that that's not how 1269 00:57:46,799 --> 00:57:44,319 it was working it's just that you were 1270 00:57:47,969 --> 00:57:46,809 getting these hits from somewhere but 1271 00:57:50,519 --> 00:57:47,979 you didn't know where they were coming 1272 00:57:52,009 --> 00:57:50,529 from is what what what time they were 1273 00:57:55,740 --> 00:57:52,019 coming from correct 1274 00:57:59,309 --> 00:57:55,750 no no we know it came from the immediate 1275 00:58:01,859 --> 00:57:59,319 you know just seconds ago was what it 1276 00:58:04,499 --> 00:58:01,869 came from but the thing about it they do 1277 00:58:09,569 --> 00:58:04,509 not yeah yeah but here's the deal 1278 00:58:12,749 --> 00:58:09,579 the laser pulses do not enter into where 1279 00:58:15,150 --> 00:58:12,759 we are and then hit the wall so we had a 1280 00:58:18,660 --> 00:58:15,160 mirror setup so we could see always our 1281 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:18,670 activity going on right yeah anything 1282 00:58:26,220 --> 00:58:21,970 anything from the beam square would hit 1283 00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:26,230 the area lower the mirror and we got 1284 00:58:31,259 --> 00:58:28,480 laser hits below the mirror when there 1285 00:58:34,289 --> 00:58:31,269 was no laser activity visible in the 1286 00:58:36,930 --> 00:58:34,299 mirror seventies we weren't getting hits 1287 00:58:39,150 --> 00:58:36,940 we weren't getting pulses of coming 1288 00:58:41,069 --> 00:58:39,160 there was there was no laser also in the 1289 00:58:43,650 --> 00:58:41,079 peering and flying the classroom a hit 1290 00:58:48,779 --> 00:58:43,660 in the wall it was just a hit on the 1291 00:58:51,599 --> 00:58:48,789 wall that that tells us that the the 1292 00:58:53,940 --> 00:58:51,609 participatory universe was just giving 1293 00:58:57,210 --> 00:58:53,950 us results they weren't giving us 1294 00:59:00,089 --> 00:58:57,220 process in between in other words if you 1295 00:59:02,490 --> 00:59:00,099 do tire travel there is no real travel 1296 00:59:05,759 --> 00:59:02,500 involved your we start out and then 1297 00:59:09,599 --> 00:59:05,769 suddenly you're where you end up there 1298 00:59:11,279 --> 00:59:09,609 is no that makes yeah so that's what 1299 00:59:14,759 --> 00:59:11,289 you're seeing happen with the laser it 1300 00:59:17,509 --> 00:59:14,769 was like yeah okay I'm getting there's a 1301 00:59:20,420 --> 00:59:17,519 name for it there's a term for is called 1302 00:59:23,069 --> 00:59:20,430 discontinuous which means you get 1303 00:59:25,799 --> 00:59:23,079 results if something happens that does 1304 00:59:28,829 --> 00:59:25,809 not have a pass that you can easily 1305 00:59:31,069 --> 00:59:28,839 track it to and that's why that's like 1306 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:31,079 paradoxes and final travel are 1307 00:59:36,269 --> 00:59:32,490 impossible 1308 00:59:37,829 --> 00:59:36,279 there was no continuous loop time loops 1309 00:59:40,980 --> 00:59:37,839 don't happen all right 1310 00:59:44,999 --> 00:59:40,990 they're discontinuous events if you time 1311 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:45,009 travel into 1066 what happens is you 1312 00:59:52,799 --> 00:59:49,450 translate yourself into a new parallel 1313 00:59:55,079 --> 00:59:52,809 universe copy of 1056 that never existed 1314 00:59:58,470 --> 00:59:55,089 without you in it because it just now 1315 01:00:01,980 --> 00:59:58,480 existed and you're in it okay and then 1316 01:00:03,990 --> 01:00:01,990 and so nothing that you do there is 1317 01:00:06,690 --> 01:00:04,000 going to cause any changes 1318 01:00:08,940 --> 01:00:06,700 to where you came from because they're 1319 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:08,950 not connected and that was what the 1320 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:19,980 confuse again so the place I left I'm 1321 01:00:40,380 --> 01:00:37,020 okay you wouldn't tell me there okay I'd 1322 01:00:43,230 --> 01:00:40,390 be gone but what people remember me yeah 1323 01:00:45,930 --> 01:00:43,240 because there's no you why wouldn't any 1324 01:00:48,060 --> 01:00:45,940 remember you do all that stuff about oh 1325 01:00:51,210 --> 01:00:48,070 you're gonna change people's memories or 1326 01:00:52,290 --> 01:00:51,220 what like Atsui that's why this in 1327 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:52,300 science they shouldn't don't know 1328 01:00:57,420 --> 01:00:54,730 anything about theirs it's coming over 1329 01:01:05,220 --> 01:00:57,430 that stuff is nonsense there's no basis 1330 01:01:08,370 --> 01:01:05,230 for okay you're not you people would say 1331 01:01:10,140 --> 01:01:08,380 for example you time-traveled okay okay 1332 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:10,150 people that you left behind would 1333 01:01:13,500 --> 01:01:11,890 remember you just like they remember if 1334 01:01:14,750 --> 01:01:13,510 you move to different country or you 1335 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:14,760 died or something 1336 01:01:23,460 --> 01:01:17,410 the reason what they remember they would 1337 01:01:26,550 --> 01:01:23,470 forget you okay nothing you do in a 1338 01:01:29,430 --> 01:01:26,560 pattern change nothing that you do in a 1339 01:01:31,770 --> 01:01:29,440 past is going to change their memories 1340 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:31,780 either because all that stuff is not 1341 01:01:36,270 --> 01:01:35,170 connected discontinuous right so there's 1342 01:01:39,210 --> 01:01:36,280 no way it can happen 1343 01:01:41,370 --> 01:01:39,220 I mean I'm like Stephen Hawking you know 1344 01:01:43,890 --> 01:01:41,380 I'm betting me and I come to science 1345 01:01:45,450 --> 01:01:43,900 stuff and yeah I'll surround it by 1346 01:01:47,220 --> 01:01:45,460 dollar bets all night with people with 1347 01:01:48,390 --> 01:01:47,230 stuff like this because I know they 1348 01:01:53,910 --> 01:01:48,400 don't know what they're talking about I 1349 01:01:55,740 --> 01:01:53,920 can prove using geometry that that is 1350 01:01:57,420 --> 01:01:55,750 that he what would happen plus with 1351 01:02:01,110 --> 01:01:57,430 these physical experiments we've been 1352 01:02:03,150 --> 01:02:01,120 doing which are based on predictions and 1353 01:02:05,990 --> 01:02:03,160 assumptions of people like when a blog 1354 01:02:08,550 --> 01:02:06,000 it was a German accent businesses I mean 1355 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:08,560 it's all settled pretty much I mean 1356 01:02:12,570 --> 01:02:10,810 knowing difference is that none of 1357 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:12,580 people know about it but the science is 1358 01:02:17,130 --> 01:02:15,130 there and it's self consistent and 1359 01:02:17,730 --> 01:02:17,140 that's what you want that's oxides every 1360 01:02:19,470 --> 01:02:17,740 theory 1361 01:02:22,890 --> 01:02:19,480 and we have physical experiments that 1362 01:02:27,780 --> 01:02:22,900 back it up there's five factors that um 1363 01:02:30,390 --> 01:02:27,790 I wrote about that support this that 1364 01:02:32,730 --> 01:02:30,400 comes from other people's work and so in 1365 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:32,740 order for me to be wrong you have to 1366 01:02:38,099 --> 01:02:35,530 prove they're wrong you know each of 1367 01:02:40,109 --> 01:02:38,109 those five different things and then you 1368 01:02:43,050 --> 01:02:40,119 have to come up with an explanation of 1369 01:02:45,510 --> 01:02:43,060 how we're getting the laser hits I have 1370 01:02:49,380 --> 01:02:45,520 nowhere that we're getting now it's a 1371 01:02:53,700 --> 01:02:51,870 okay well then here's the next question 1372 01:02:55,980 --> 01:02:53,710 that always comes up between you and I 1373 01:02:59,160 --> 01:02:55,990 and everybody else is now that I'm time 1374 01:03:03,060 --> 01:02:59,170 travel back to 1969 the in the summer of 1375 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:03,070 love I'm still 70 or 60 years old and 1376 01:03:13,230 --> 01:03:06,970 I'm still I'm still there in that 1377 01:03:14,970 --> 01:03:13,240 universe at 16 or 17 yeah okay and so 1378 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:14,980 the trick is that we don't run into each 1379 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:16,450 other and if we did it wouldn't matter 1380 01:03:25,410 --> 01:03:21,730 right you're battling okay my younger 1381 01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:25,420 version of you if she realize that she's 1382 01:03:32,460 --> 01:03:27,130 looking older version of herself name 1383 01:03:34,380 --> 01:03:32,470 your son I gather yeah I probably run 1384 01:03:39,540 --> 01:03:34,390 into myself forty five times and not 1385 01:03:42,060 --> 01:03:39,550 cared or noticed probably in 45 1386 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:42,070 different dimensions or times or 1387 01:03:46,470 --> 01:03:44,290 whatever but I'm just laughing because 1388 01:03:48,510 --> 01:03:46,480 how many times could I do that could i 1389 01:03:51,660 --> 01:03:48,520 if if there was a time machine in each 1390 01:03:54,349 --> 01:03:51,670 time that I jumped back could I go to 1391 01:03:57,750 --> 01:03:54,359 another time can I could I go one year 1392 01:03:59,070 --> 01:03:57,760 later and let's just say I decided I 1393 01:04:02,010 --> 01:03:59,080 want to just keep going back to when I 1394 01:04:06,660 --> 01:04:02,020 was born every couple of years can I do 1395 01:04:09,359 --> 01:04:06,670 that yeah you know you could do that Wow 1396 01:04:10,890 --> 01:04:09,369 and it went screw it would screw up any 1397 01:04:15,359 --> 01:04:10,900 timelines because they're all being 1398 01:04:19,470 --> 01:04:15,369 created as I get there right okay cool 1399 01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:19,480 well so let's say that they do have time 1400 01:04:24,540 --> 01:04:22,930 travel already how come we're so smashed 1401 01:04:26,339 --> 01:04:24,550 up the way we are you think that they 1402 01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:26,349 would go back and keep like trying to 1403 01:04:32,329 --> 01:04:28,450 fix the problems before they happen like 1404 01:04:36,059 --> 01:04:32,339 world war do you know 1405 01:04:38,579 --> 01:04:36,069 you got remember if you go you do time 1406 01:04:41,219 --> 01:04:38,589 travel to fix something you're only 1407 01:04:43,589 --> 01:04:41,229 fixing it for that copy of the universe 1408 01:04:46,859 --> 01:04:43,599 it's your aunt has nothing to do but 1409 01:04:48,509 --> 01:04:46,869 already happen where you are at yeah 1410 01:04:55,259 --> 01:04:48,519 that's what we can do about it 1411 01:04:58,739 --> 01:04:55,269 basically we're doomed well you can tell 1412 01:05:01,079 --> 01:04:58,749 what you're doing from yeah yeah I love 1413 01:05:02,939 --> 01:05:01,089 you I think my lady I think we're doomed 1414 01:05:08,039 --> 01:05:02,949 in the future which is why I wanna get 1415 01:05:10,620 --> 01:05:08,049 to the bath all right yeah I know I hear 1416 01:05:12,569 --> 01:05:10,630 ya man because I every day I wake up and 1417 01:05:16,259 --> 01:05:12,579 I go we are just getting ourselves 1418 01:05:18,029 --> 01:05:16,269 deeper and deeper and if we ever have 1419 01:05:20,939 --> 01:05:18,039 another world war it's gonna be on the 1420 01:05:23,939 --> 01:05:20,949 scale of just insanity and if we ever 1421 01:05:25,620 --> 01:05:23,949 have a CME oh we're all dead 1422 01:05:29,099 --> 01:05:25,630 ninety-three million people die within 1423 01:05:30,749 --> 01:05:29,109 the first 48 hours you know it's just 1424 01:05:32,969 --> 01:05:30,759 gonna be intense I mean people don't 1425 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:32,979 understand the walls will explode from 1426 01:05:38,219 --> 01:05:36,130 the heat your house will just burn up 1427 01:05:40,079 --> 01:05:38,229 around you you will incinerate with it 1428 01:05:42,979 --> 01:05:40,089 you know I mean it just blows my mind 1429 01:05:45,479 --> 01:05:42,989 how how naive people are there was a 1430 01:05:48,599 --> 01:05:45,489 congresswoman from Alaska who stopped 1431 01:05:50,519 --> 01:05:48,609 the bill in Congress so that we can turn 1432 01:05:55,469 --> 01:05:50,529 off the all the grid system if we saw 1433 01:05:57,539 --> 01:05:55,479 seeing me coming and she stopped it and 1434 01:05:59,609 --> 01:05:57,549 you know she should be in prison for you 1435 01:06:02,639 --> 01:05:59,619 know terrorism or war crimes I in my 1436 01:06:04,649 --> 01:06:02,649 opinion but hey nobody understands the 1437 01:06:06,839 --> 01:06:04,659 dangers we live in until you actually 1438 01:06:09,689 --> 01:06:06,849 kind of live through it and and as 7th 1439 01:06:11,309 --> 01:06:09,699 mast extinction would not be something I 1440 01:06:14,639 --> 01:06:11,319 want to live through to be honest with 1441 01:06:18,109 --> 01:06:14,649 you marshal why is that yeah I mean 1442 01:06:21,179 --> 01:06:18,119 really that's just you know no food and 1443 01:06:22,829 --> 01:06:21,189 disease dead everywhere I mean people 1444 01:06:24,389 --> 01:06:22,839 don't get it it's just mind-boggling 1445 01:06:26,759 --> 01:06:24,399 people who live through the wars 1446 01:06:31,379 --> 01:06:26,769 understand that they understand what how 1447 01:06:33,659 --> 01:06:31,389 horrific you can be and yeah I know 1448 01:06:36,779 --> 01:06:33,669 and so what year would you pick to go to 1449 01:06:39,439 --> 01:06:36,789 if you could well I'm working on going 1450 01:06:42,359 --> 01:06:39,449 right show me why 1451 01:06:45,030 --> 01:06:42,369 yeah I haven't thought about it encore 1452 01:06:49,010 --> 01:06:45,040 calm euro 1453 01:06:55,140 --> 01:06:49,020 or is forward to 1971 1454 01:06:58,140 --> 01:06:55,150 Quora which is qu o are a.com and I put 1455 01:07:00,660 --> 01:06:58,150 post up about different aspects of one 1456 01:07:03,990 --> 01:07:00,670 plant I'm doing and why and all that 1457 01:07:06,900 --> 01:07:04,000 kind of stuff okay I have about I've got 1458 01:07:08,970 --> 01:07:06,910 about seven or eight maybe more folks up 1459 01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:08,980 there now let me anymore and that's week 1460 01:07:15,270 --> 01:07:13,930 or so cool yeah but yeah 71 I know 1461 01:07:17,250 --> 01:07:15,280 exactly what I'm gonna do and every I'm 1462 01:07:19,470 --> 01:07:17,260 gonna see I got a girl all figured out 1463 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:19,480 right now I'm going to call bunch of 1464 01:07:25,380 --> 01:07:23,050 money because the one thing I was 1465 01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:25,390 thinking okay go back to thank you so do 1466 01:07:29,790 --> 01:07:27,490 you want to get a job recording studio 1467 01:07:32,970 --> 01:07:29,800 and one day it struck me wait a minute I 1468 01:07:35,970 --> 01:07:32,980 know people I know people now who back 1469 01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:35,980 then would be a position of power in any 1470 01:07:42,210 --> 01:07:39,370 song and I'm going to use on this yeah 1471 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:42,220 okay he's like in essence and so I 1472 01:07:48,750 --> 01:07:45,490 started tracking down history to people 1473 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:48,760 like to see me what we're all gonna stop 1474 01:07:55,890 --> 01:07:52,330 so why wouldn't why he recognizes anyone 1475 01:08:01,260 --> 01:07:55,900 in March I believe it would be best on 1476 01:08:05,460 --> 01:08:01,270 the rise and I and I go to New York City 1477 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:05,470 and I would kill I wouldn't want to do 1478 01:08:12,270 --> 01:08:09,010 it there's new the Fillmore East which 1479 01:08:15,780 --> 01:08:12,280 is a big rock and roll challenge New 1480 01:08:17,970 --> 01:08:15,790 York City back in a day the I can't 1481 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:17,980 member when there were sex I know I find 1482 01:08:29,190 --> 01:08:23,010 me that but their last day my plan is to 1483 01:08:34,559 --> 01:08:29,200 bite on if I have to from Bill Graham he 1484 01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:34,569 ran it to show us like a three-minute 16 1485 01:08:39,750 --> 01:08:37,210 millimeter film which I will make here 1486 01:08:41,789 --> 01:08:39,760 before I leave all shooting I haven't 1487 01:08:44,340 --> 01:08:41,799 transferred the system only as well so I 1488 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:44,350 can shoot it back then maybe a 1489 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:47,410 promotional film about me as its new 1490 01:08:52,740 --> 01:08:51,130 media concept thing whatever and I would 1491 01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:52,750 run ads for in all the papers and 1492 01:08:57,210 --> 01:08:54,970 everything and then people rethought 1493 01:08:58,650 --> 01:08:57,220 like well because I have like this super 1494 01:09:02,430 --> 01:08:58,660 stereo sound track do 1495 01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:02,440 no one ever seen before and then having 1496 01:09:07,470 --> 01:09:04,570 caused that buzz I would then make an 1497 01:09:10,980 --> 01:09:07,480 appointment to see toys and that' who I 1498 01:09:12,690 --> 01:09:10,990 know now who work with pain Johan belly 1499 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:12,700 back leg everybody first came over to 1500 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:14,770 the states and he was doing Ziggy 1501 01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:18,010 Stardust everything and so I'm gonna 1502 01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:20,050 tell him he'll be the only person that 1503 01:09:24,570 --> 01:09:22,930 will probably know the truth because I 1504 01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:24,580 want to show up and you know I don't 1505 01:09:29,010 --> 01:09:26,050 know who I am because this thing I did 1506 01:09:31,830 --> 01:09:29,020 it to someone and I won't share him a 1507 01:09:34,710 --> 01:09:31,840 picture of you talking private I got a 1508 01:09:36,510 --> 01:09:34,720 proposal but what's the year and I would 1509 01:09:40,730 --> 01:09:36,520 show him this picture of he and I 1510 01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:40,740 together from 1988 and I go that's you 1511 01:09:45,450 --> 01:09:44,530 older and that's me younger and his mom 1512 01:09:48,150 --> 01:09:45,460 would be born 1513 01:09:50,250 --> 01:09:48,160 looks nice I know how he is I met 1514 01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:50,260 wouldn't totally freak him out right and 1515 01:09:55,410 --> 01:09:52,210 then I was telling the truth 1516 01:09:57,330 --> 01:09:55,420 I was telling to I said look we need we 1517 01:10:00,270 --> 01:09:57,340 need you I need you to get me a try for 1518 01:10:03,330 --> 01:10:00,280 Tom Wilson Tom Wilson was the guy who 1519 01:10:06,630 --> 01:10:03,340 work Andy wolf or now any wall but go 1520 01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:06,640 underground any work of Simon Garfunkel 1521 01:10:14,370 --> 01:10:10,090 bug it was a record producer later their 1522 01:10:16,860 --> 01:10:14,380 visionary bee dies in 1978 I said 1523 01:10:19,110 --> 01:10:16,870 meaning I need you to get me in to meet 1524 01:10:22,710 --> 01:10:19,120 him because I'm gonna save his life and 1525 01:10:25,350 --> 01:10:22,720 then we're gonna change their reset and 1526 01:10:27,480 --> 01:10:25,360 what happens is that I wouldn't meet 1527 01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:27,490 this guy I'll just say hey look we need 1528 01:10:31,890 --> 01:10:29,610 to take her to the doctor right now and 1529 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:31,900 just trust me on this I'll give you a 1530 01:10:36,480 --> 01:10:34,090 couple hundred bucks just just anywhere 1531 01:10:40,290 --> 01:10:36,490 me and we were taking Marion he would 1532 01:10:42,570 --> 01:10:40,300 turn out he has a heart condition and he 1533 01:10:45,620 --> 01:10:42,580 would end up dying in 78 if it didn't 1534 01:10:48,540 --> 01:10:45,630 get fixed okay we just know about it 1535 01:10:50,730 --> 01:10:48,550 exactly selfless someone save his life 1536 01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:50,740 which will make us past life forever 1537 01:10:57,570 --> 01:10:51,370 right 1538 01:11:00,090 --> 01:10:57,580 and then we might foresee his ideal of 1539 01:11:01,470 --> 01:11:00,100 how you visualize entertainment 1540 01:11:03,620 --> 01:11:01,480 retailing multimedia everything like 1541 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:03,630 that back in the early seventies right 1542 01:11:09,750 --> 01:11:06,610 he means I'm gonna have to LA actually 1543 01:11:12,060 --> 01:11:09,760 has as hard as that so what ends up 1544 01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:12,070 happening is I know that Paul 1545 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:15,489 answer from Jefferson Starship yeah at 1546 01:11:21,930 --> 01:11:17,530 same time - he was having like ideas 1547 01:11:25,470 --> 01:11:21,940 about you know SM essence music being on 1548 01:11:28,169 --> 01:11:25,480 TV wasn't a visual thing going on so 1549 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:28,179 what's gonna happen is talking I end up 1550 01:11:33,149 --> 01:11:30,010 meeting in real life and of course he's 1551 01:11:36,419 --> 01:11:33,159 dead now but on the hand back in the 80s 1552 01:11:40,319 --> 01:11:36,429 and my son was in the early nineties but 1553 01:11:42,450 --> 01:11:40,329 I know Paul school so me and Tom Milton 1554 01:11:45,330 --> 01:11:42,460 okay we'll give it a top with Paul 1555 01:11:54,330 --> 01:11:45,340 Cannon and we'll start MTV before MTV 1556 01:11:55,109 --> 01:11:54,340 get started on its own TV no I think I'm 1557 01:11:59,490 --> 01:11:55,119 gonna call it 1558 01:12:02,069 --> 01:11:59,500 MV TV music video television and we're 1559 01:12:04,140 --> 01:12:02,079 gonna we're gonna completely you know 1560 01:12:07,379 --> 01:12:04,150 change how the whole thing pulling out 1561 01:12:12,660 --> 01:12:07,389 comes together it won't turn out into 1562 01:12:16,979 --> 01:12:12,670 the bastard a [\h__\h] is now you fix that 1563 01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:16,989 in another timeline we will because it 1564 01:12:22,319 --> 01:12:19,090 really got crappy when they started 1565 01:12:25,260 --> 01:12:22,329 doing this Big Brother you know whatever 1566 01:12:27,149 --> 01:12:25,270 I can't I want a music video station 1567 01:12:30,060 --> 01:12:27,159 that's just music videos like they 1568 01:12:32,790 --> 01:12:30,070 started and be so wonderful to have that 1569 01:12:36,510 --> 01:12:32,800 back in another time alright it's be 1570 01:12:39,359 --> 01:12:36,520 well it's gonna be like that I know 1571 01:12:42,209 --> 01:12:39,369 I even got figured out that want to 1572 01:12:44,189 --> 01:12:42,219 start out in the music business as a 1573 01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:44,199 producer and getting involved in video 1574 01:12:48,839 --> 01:12:47,170 and then I will after I get make much of 1575 01:12:51,959 --> 01:12:48,849 money that way I won't start moving in 1576 01:12:54,510 --> 01:12:51,969 the aerospace well having work drive in 1577 01:13:02,729 --> 01:12:54,520 this different timeline like you know 1578 01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:02,739 before the eighties happened a long time 1579 01:13:09,060 --> 01:13:05,770 ago this is ridiculous they've been 1580 01:13:11,700 --> 01:13:09,070 hiding all right well I'm not I'm not 1581 01:13:14,910 --> 01:13:11,710 saying that I know what we don't have it 1582 01:13:18,180 --> 01:13:14,920 because they're looking at looking at 1583 01:13:20,790 --> 01:13:18,190 the problem the wrong way Richard 1584 01:13:23,700 --> 01:13:20,800 Hamming the information science genius 1585 01:13:25,210 --> 01:13:23,710 said what this is what we use it for 1586 01:13:27,670 --> 01:13:25,220 real paraphrasing but 1587 01:13:31,180 --> 01:13:27,680 this is famously said he said you know 1588 01:13:33,550 --> 01:13:31,190 is it every scientists don't look at 1589 01:13:35,860 --> 01:13:33,560 important problems important problems or 1590 01:13:38,350 --> 01:13:35,870 things like any gravity teleportation 1591 01:13:40,270 --> 01:13:38,360 time travel you know and they're 1592 01:13:41,770 --> 01:13:40,280 important because you got to figure out 1593 01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:41,780 a way of attacking and when we don't 1594 01:13:46,780 --> 01:13:43,970 know how to attack those problems so the 1595 01:13:53,830 --> 01:13:46,790 average scientist this does unimportant 1596 01:13:56,980 --> 01:13:53,840 thing so that's a problem problem is we 1597 01:13:59,950 --> 01:13:56,990 haven't had enough you know really great 1598 01:14:01,810 --> 01:13:59,960 scientists to sit around and and and 1599 01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:01,820 concentrate on the way to attack those 1600 01:14:07,420 --> 01:14:04,130 problems now I've been doing it 1601 01:14:08,950 --> 01:14:07,430 I mean it's I'm not average okay but 1602 01:14:11,380 --> 01:14:08,960 these average guys all working on 1603 01:14:17,490 --> 01:14:11,390 unimportant things according to hammy is 1604 01:14:21,250 --> 01:14:17,500 true he's a perfect man 1605 01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:21,260 it's a Sherpa bell lab you can work her 1606 01:14:29,530 --> 01:14:26,930 Bell lab and yeah there's so many really 1607 01:14:31,420 --> 01:14:29,540 smart guys that were around back in the 1608 01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:31,430 day that known even knows about it I'd 1609 01:14:35,290 --> 01:14:32,090 be funny 1610 01:14:38,590 --> 01:14:35,300 well I hear ya and you know what cracked 1611 01:14:41,110 --> 01:14:38,600 me up was the fact that nobody seems to 1612 01:14:44,110 --> 01:14:41,120 want to deal with time travel except for 1613 01:14:45,610 --> 01:14:44,120 a few people out there and I know if you 1614 01:14:48,670 --> 01:14:45,620 want to go into that whole story 1615 01:14:50,710 --> 01:14:48,680 tonight but there's a guy out there 1616 01:15:02,070 --> 01:14:50,720 that's making a lot of claims and he 1617 01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:05,020 everybody that you've been kind of at 1618 01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:08,210 odds with mallet for a while now I've 1619 01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:19,610 not been a now I've been at war this is 1620 01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:24,770 a few this isn't like you know I for 1621 01:15:29,770 --> 01:15:27,170 somebody I'm at war with well now it 1622 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:29,780 well now it I'm a hopefully with a wire 1623 01:15:35,710 --> 01:15:32,570 a con artist and a fraud and what 1624 01:15:39,100 --> 01:15:35,720 happens is we talked last is that people 1625 01:15:43,210 --> 01:15:39,110 more people are taking this stuff down 1626 01:15:45,220 --> 01:15:43,220 in fact oh good I know one teacher I got 1627 01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:45,230 a teacher who made some lessons based on 1628 01:15:50,950 --> 01:15:48,290 him now give me an idea what is what 1629 01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:50,960 happened the teacher had in these 1630 01:15:57,130 --> 01:15:53,810 lessons that Mauro mallet and a patent 1631 01:15:59,680 --> 01:15:57,140 on time machine now I know why that she 1632 01:16:02,710 --> 01:15:59,690 forgot that because well mallet put out 1633 01:16:06,100 --> 01:16:02,720 that he had achieved a provisional 1634 01:16:07,870 --> 01:16:06,110 patent on an astonishing idea it wasn't 1635 01:16:12,430 --> 01:16:07,880 even a real machine it was just an idea 1636 01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:12,440 okay okay what happens is is that he 1637 01:16:18,370 --> 01:16:15,650 never got the full patent he'll out its 1638 01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:18,380 expire I know this because he told me so 1639 01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:22,250 but I know something because I wrote a 1640 01:16:28,780 --> 01:16:25,250 paper that was an analysis of his patent 1641 01:16:30,610 --> 01:16:28,790 design and I call it the patent office 1642 01:16:33,550 --> 01:16:30,620 because I wanted really like you know 1643 01:16:36,730 --> 01:16:33,560 thorough and they even gave me a query 1644 01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:36,740 number but they said yeah they gave me 1645 01:16:40,780 --> 01:16:38,330 the data when he applied for this 1646 01:16:43,540 --> 01:16:40,790 position patent and he got it but a year 1647 01:16:46,900 --> 01:16:43,550 later it expired he never applied for 1648 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:46,910 the full patty and if you look for him 1649 01:16:52,210 --> 01:16:49,850 up in the Patent Office you won't find 1650 01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:52,220 him online because unless she gave her 1651 01:16:56,530 --> 01:16:54,770 full patent they don't keep and clear on 1652 01:17:00,100 --> 01:16:56,540 lying the provisional application he 1653 01:17:04,420 --> 01:17:00,110 planned but what it did this is 1654 01:17:06,700 --> 01:17:04,430 important what it did was he went around 1655 01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:06,710 saying oh I got this provisional party 1656 01:17:13,540 --> 01:17:09,410 and he was assumed that he got the full 1657 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:13,550 one right right is he's getting it right 1658 01:17:20,170 --> 01:17:16,970 and he didn't he didn't even though the 1659 01:17:22,270 --> 01:17:20,180 provisional patent had expired prior to 1660 01:17:26,020 --> 01:17:22,280 the time a good book about him 1661 01:17:28,690 --> 01:17:26,030 it was written by him came out it's not 1662 01:17:29,950 --> 01:17:28,700 in a book that he let it expire it's a 1663 01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:29,960 book that he apply for the provisional 1664 01:17:35,590 --> 01:17:32,690 patent and he tell us about that in 1665 01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:35,600 there but there's nothing about what 1666 01:17:41,170 --> 01:17:37,970 that chelated expired so people just 1667 01:17:43,270 --> 01:17:41,180 assume that he went ahead and we have 1668 01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:43,280 finished it out but he didn't write and 1669 01:17:47,170 --> 01:17:45,050 you were and he did it that way 1670 01:17:49,750 --> 01:17:47,180 deliberately so people were seeing 1671 01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:49,760 something that wasn't true and actually 1672 01:17:56,770 --> 01:17:52,970 this side does now here's the deal 1673 01:17:59,980 --> 01:17:56,780 I just said while el mal is a wire fraud 1674 01:18:02,470 --> 01:17:59,990 a con artist if that wasn't true he 1675 01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:02,480 could sue me for defamation but he was 1676 01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:04,610 not see me for defamation even though 1677 01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:06,050 I've been seeing that about him for over 1678 01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:08,690 a year and he knows it the reason he 1679 01:18:14,290 --> 01:18:11,810 doesn't see me if he knows being well if 1680 01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:14,300 we go to court me and my attorneys will 1681 01:18:19,990 --> 01:18:16,370 get he'll understand and he won't die 1682 01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:20,000 death of a thousand cuts because we 1683 01:18:27,580 --> 01:18:25,250 completely destroyed a thousand dollar 1684 01:18:28,420 --> 01:18:27,590 bill cuts with the lawyers fee is what 1685 01:18:31,540 --> 01:18:28,430 he'll be dying 1686 01:18:32,710 --> 01:18:31,550 well no it's worse than that because we 1687 01:18:35,770 --> 01:18:32,720 were getting on the stand 1688 01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:35,780 we know everything about this guy I know 1689 01:18:40,570 --> 01:18:38,050 how he responds the questions was done 1690 01:18:42,820 --> 01:18:40,580 we did him up there and we would have 1691 01:18:44,230 --> 01:18:42,830 him basically say the kind of stuff that 1692 01:18:47,170 --> 01:18:44,240 he would want to say to make himself 1693 01:18:48,820 --> 01:18:47,180 look good and then we would deconstruct 1694 01:18:52,450 --> 01:18:48,830 every single thing and he would have to 1695 01:18:54,310 --> 01:18:52,460 admit time after time after time well no 1696 01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:54,320 that isn't really true this isn't really 1697 01:19:00,580 --> 01:18:56,690 true you know I don't know that Bam Bam 1698 01:19:03,130 --> 01:19:00,590 it would be it'd be horrible and then 1699 01:19:05,140 --> 01:19:03,140 and then it because he would have put me 1700 01:19:07,150 --> 01:19:05,150 through that and I mean this is why he 1701 01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:07,160 doesn't see me if he did see me 1702 01:19:12,850 --> 01:19:09,370 absolutely destroy him in court on why 1703 01:19:15,250 --> 01:19:12,860 okay because especially as defamation is 1704 01:19:19,350 --> 01:19:15,260 true I have everything fully documented 1705 01:19:22,810 --> 01:19:19,360 you know all kinds of business documents 1706 01:19:25,420 --> 01:19:22,820 interviews to him stuff in his book so 1707 01:19:26,950 --> 01:19:25,430 there's all kinds of stuff it would get 1708 01:19:29,740 --> 01:19:26,960 selling out and you know it's an item 1709 01:19:32,380 --> 01:19:29,750 sue him that his style age all right and 1710 01:19:35,410 --> 01:19:32,390 the reason why I have all this animosity 1711 01:19:36,370 --> 01:19:35,420 towards so if he screwed me over in more 1712 01:19:40,540 --> 01:19:36,380 ways than one 1713 01:19:44,650 --> 01:19:40,550 and so that's why this is a war he will 1714 01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:44,660 not quit unless he is historic I mean 1715 01:19:49,870 --> 01:19:47,210 you know I'm not able to do someone that 1716 01:19:51,790 --> 01:19:49,880 no one will listen time well you know 1717 01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:51,800 what you just you really I've got to 1718 01:19:55,660 --> 01:19:53,810 give you credit for being tenacious and 1719 01:19:57,850 --> 01:19:55,670 going after him it's really important 1720 01:20:00,340 --> 01:19:57,860 that people don't get away with this 1721 01:20:02,500 --> 01:20:00,350 kind of stuff anymore because we can't 1722 01:20:04,980 --> 01:20:02,510 you know we can't be led by fools and 1723 01:20:06,850 --> 01:20:04,990 thieves anymore it's that simple 1724 01:20:08,770 --> 01:20:06,860 well yeah 1725 01:20:14,340 --> 01:20:08,780 even worse that he was calling for 1726 01:20:17,740 --> 01:20:14,350 government regulation a time travel yeah 1727 01:20:20,650 --> 01:20:17,750 are you serious you were easy for him 1728 01:20:22,630 --> 01:20:20,660 decides if he's not really doing it no 1729 01:20:25,750 --> 01:20:22,640 intention isn't attention about your 1730 01:20:30,550 --> 01:20:25,760 time do it at all so you know he was 1731 01:20:32,410 --> 01:20:30,560 saying stuff like that and he he says 1732 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:32,420 he's you know gives researchers on a 1733 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:34,970 real science with time travel but all of 1734 01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:37,010 this is relativity theory and there are 1735 01:20:41,740 --> 01:20:39,290 no practical applications or tackle 1736 01:20:43,870 --> 01:20:41,750 solutions from either theory of 1737 01:20:46,210 --> 01:20:43,880 relativity for time travel we just not 1738 01:20:47,980 --> 01:20:46,220 there because you need to go to the 1739 01:20:50,500 --> 01:20:47,990 speed of life or a faster speed rider 1740 01:20:53,350 --> 01:20:50,510 use a black hole or whatever we can't do 1741 01:20:58,620 --> 01:20:53,360 any access it doesn't matter as I Paul 1742 01:21:01,060 --> 01:20:58,630 Sutter did this video clip and uh any 1743 01:21:03,490 --> 01:21:01,070 article of space.com which I wrote a 1744 01:21:05,740 --> 01:21:03,500 paper on and I just obstructed 1745 01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:05,750 everything he said I said it's not using 1746 01:21:09,940 --> 01:21:08,090 black holes oh great nearest black hole 1747 01:21:17,830 --> 01:21:09,950 sixteen hundred light years away 1748 01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:17,840 how you going to get there I tell ya I 1749 01:21:21,730 --> 01:21:20,090 wake up some days and I wonder how 1750 01:21:24,460 --> 01:21:21,740 people think out you know how to get out 1751 01:21:33,700 --> 01:21:24,470 of a paper bag literally I just I really 1752 01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:33,710 can't get it you know but what bothers 1753 01:21:38,440 --> 01:21:36,170 me the most is he's you know and God 1754 01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:38,450 bless them you know I I hate thinking it 1755 01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:40,610 will of people but how does he get all 1756 01:21:49,930 --> 01:21:42,770 this publicity it just blows my mind 1757 01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:49,940 it's like you know yeah he has this 1758 01:21:54,910 --> 01:21:52,850 interesting story this personal story oh 1759 01:21:58,360 --> 01:21:54,920 when I was 10 years old my dad died I 1760 01:22:00,700 --> 01:21:58,370 was so upset and then I saw this column 1761 01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:00,710 book well AC Welles's looked at on 1762 01:22:05,440 --> 01:22:03,170 machine and I thought I maybe I could go 1763 01:22:06,940 --> 01:22:05,450 inside a scene and see my dad and I 1764 01:22:08,980 --> 01:22:06,950 started building on machine buddy I was 1765 01:22:11,710 --> 01:22:08,990 doing so what didn't work and then I'll 1766 01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:11,720 find about Einstein yeah I'm sorry I 1767 01:22:17,110 --> 01:22:14,930 just do relativity and so I thought well 1768 01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:17,120 why need to do is I need to tell us 1769 01:22:20,690 --> 01:22:19,570 scientist so I can do physics and 1770 01:22:22,700 --> 01:22:20,700 negative 1771 01:22:25,850 --> 01:22:22,710 my machine and then he goes on and talks 1772 01:22:28,970 --> 01:22:25,860 about how he didn't afford college and 1773 01:22:31,580 --> 01:22:28,980 he went to military so you could get in 1774 01:22:34,100 --> 01:22:31,590 CI bill and a lot kind of stuff and then 1775 01:22:36,980 --> 01:22:34,110 he spent time doing research on black 1776 01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:36,990 holes in keeping his interests sometimes 1777 01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:39,810 that was secret and then he claimed he 1778 01:22:45,010 --> 01:22:43,650 claims he has found a solution inside on 1779 01:22:48,950 --> 01:22:45,020 science general theory of relativity 1780 01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:48,960 based on the gravitational effects of 1781 01:22:53,930 --> 01:22:50,970 light and he doesn't make a time machine 1782 01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:53,940 a life here's a theist filled out 1783 01:22:59,180 --> 01:22:57,210 turns out number one that his 1784 01:23:02,560 --> 01:22:59,190 calculations were wrong he is 1785 01:23:06,350 --> 01:23:02,570 since admitted that it will take energy 1786 01:23:08,060 --> 01:23:06,360 filler quantities in order for him to be 1787 01:23:11,990 --> 01:23:08,070 will affect time the way he wants to try 1788 01:23:15,890 --> 01:23:12,000 to do it and number two there are all 1789 01:23:17,930 --> 01:23:15,900 kinds of engineering problems based on 1790 01:23:20,690 --> 01:23:17,940 temporal mechanics or connected to the 1791 01:23:23,510 --> 01:23:20,700 nature of town itself in his design 1792 01:23:25,970 --> 01:23:23,520 which I've I've written about 1793 01:23:28,070 --> 01:23:25,980 and part of those problems have to do 1794 01:23:28,730 --> 01:23:28,080 with the idea he what is he creating 1795 01:23:33,460 --> 01:23:28,740 closed 1796 01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:33,470 unlike curves and long story short he 1797 01:23:40,340 --> 01:23:37,410 wants to create a closed timelike curves 1798 01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:40,350 and then he thinks that will then send a 1799 01:23:45,790 --> 01:23:42,690 particle that you send down in the 1800 01:23:49,190 --> 01:23:45,800 movies back in time he's for the game 1801 01:23:50,570 --> 01:23:49,200 were describing yeah yeah yeah we're you 1802 01:23:54,860 --> 01:23:50,580 forgetting is this because it was going 1803 01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:54,870 to slinky always forgetting is this the 1804 01:23:58,910 --> 01:23:57,210 cosine that curled it works it goes back 1805 01:24:01,760 --> 01:23:58,920 inside I mean is only part of it is in 1806 01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:01,770 our up time zone or our time-space later 1807 01:24:06,440 --> 01:24:05,250 right right yeah and and if you have a 1808 01:24:09,010 --> 01:24:06,450 stack of them 1809 01:24:13,460 --> 01:24:09,020 what's your ROI looking at is a solution 1810 01:24:16,730 --> 01:24:13,470 from thermodynamics a solution some 1811 01:24:18,890 --> 01:24:16,740 fluid dynamics okay where's that is 1812 01:24:22,460 --> 01:24:18,900 curves and they're gonna be you're gonna 1813 01:24:24,260 --> 01:24:22,470 be affecting the space at their ad but 1814 01:24:26,620 --> 01:24:24,270 they're not gonna be affecting time and 1815 01:24:28,940 --> 01:24:26,630 that's what he's talking about because 1816 01:24:31,220 --> 01:24:28,950 you know they saw it's almost like he's 1817 01:24:32,540 --> 01:24:31,230 saying they're like the powers or 1818 01:24:34,580 --> 01:24:32,550 something but they're not well if the 1819 01:24:37,550 --> 01:24:34,590 tellers I'm pardon there is even 1820 01:24:40,220 --> 01:24:37,560 be here and now and the rest goes bad 1821 01:24:42,860 --> 01:24:40,230 because they sound everything right into 1822 01:24:44,210 --> 01:24:42,870 the loop and when he describes it he 1823 01:24:46,490 --> 01:24:44,220 doesn't complete the description 1824 01:24:48,050 --> 01:24:46,500 properly and see and it was something 1825 01:24:50,450 --> 01:24:48,060 that isn't what he thinks it's going to 1826 01:24:53,390 --> 01:24:50,460 be and you're finding by this in his 1827 01:24:57,050 --> 01:24:53,400 book he says that he learned early on 1828 01:24:59,990 --> 01:24:57,060 that he didn't have the aptitude just to 1829 01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:00,000 be instrumentalist okay to be fair 1830 01:25:04,730 --> 01:25:02,970 Mallett how thinking hey dude if you 1831 01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:04,740 don't have that then you're not gonna be 1832 01:25:09,770 --> 01:25:06,690 able to you know you don't understand 1833 01:25:13,100 --> 01:25:09,780 what you're doing theoretically it 1834 01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:13,110 sounds to me like his theory of the way 1835 01:25:19,130 --> 01:25:16,410 he's working might just create a loop 1836 01:25:21,260 --> 01:25:19,140 but it would come back into some other 1837 01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:21,270 time and you wouldn't know where you'd 1838 01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:22,170 end up 1839 01:25:28,490 --> 01:25:24,090 I think this would it wouldn't that be 1840 01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:28,500 the case for what now Matt well it's 1841 01:25:33,230 --> 01:25:30,570 more problematic than that number one 1842 01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:33,240 it's probably not gonna work because he 1843 01:25:37,550 --> 01:25:35,130 says that the loops are close to my 1844 01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:37,560 curves so how you doing anything in them 1845 01:25:43,820 --> 01:25:41,970 and he doesn't say he's going to get 1846 01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:43,830 anything in it he says he wants a stat 1847 01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:46,170 B's and then they're gonna set the space 1848 01:25:50,870 --> 01:25:49,050 and time that they're working yet a full 1849 01:25:53,630 --> 01:25:50,880 rotation because part of them is gonna 1850 01:25:56,090 --> 01:25:53,640 be in back any time I don't I don't 1851 01:26:00,320 --> 01:25:56,100 believe close to my curves even really 1852 01:26:01,910 --> 01:26:00,330 work okay here's why we know now if you 1853 01:26:04,910 --> 01:26:01,920 do anything that's going to affect the 1854 01:26:06,770 --> 01:26:04,920 time then you have because the 1855 01:26:09,620 --> 01:26:06,780 participatory universe can produce a 1856 01:26:11,810 --> 01:26:09,630 parallel universe so the minute that 1857 01:26:14,690 --> 01:26:11,820 close on the curve would start to turn 1858 01:26:20,570 --> 01:26:14,700 back towards the pass they are right you 1859 01:26:22,130 --> 01:26:20,580 know it's creating another past you got 1860 01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:22,140 a whole bunch of them and then that 1861 01:26:28,190 --> 01:26:25,890 where do you end up that's a problem 1862 01:26:29,810 --> 01:26:28,200 it's just it was creating at a pass and 1863 01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:29,820 if you were on that one you would end up 1864 01:26:32,090 --> 01:26:31,530 there but that's about as far as there 1865 01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:32,100 we go 1866 01:26:38,210 --> 01:26:35,730 you know the excellent sake Lucinda 1867 01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:38,220 curves are problematic because people 1868 01:26:44,330 --> 01:26:40,290 just made assumptions about them I mean 1869 01:26:46,940 --> 01:26:44,340 my people mean this is even know and and 1870 01:26:48,970 --> 01:26:46,950 it's like you seeing oh it's gonna be 1871 01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:48,980 like this readings I'm you like 1872 01:26:53,510 --> 01:26:51,570 you go back to the past and you come 1873 01:26:56,390 --> 01:26:53,520 back for the future yeah you like sorry 1874 01:26:58,880 --> 01:26:56,400 wait a minute now and then they have a 1875 01:27:01,070 --> 01:26:58,890 problem coaching horizons which can 1876 01:27:02,540 --> 01:27:01,080 amplify energy that we do through that 1877 01:27:04,850 --> 01:27:02,550 geometry and that's what Stephen 1878 01:27:08,450 --> 01:27:04,860 Hawking's quality protection conjecture 1879 01:27:11,030 --> 01:27:08,460 comes in it's it's very column attic 1880 01:27:14,780 --> 01:27:11,040 because their arguments against 1881 01:27:17,150 --> 01:27:14,790 happening and on top of it all annulment 1882 01:27:20,860 --> 01:27:17,160 scene one there are no closed timelike 1883 01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:20,870 curves that we can look at you're all 1884 01:27:27,620 --> 01:27:24,690 okay they have insinuations but those 1885 01:27:30,350 --> 01:27:27,630 aren't real so it's like why even bother 1886 01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:30,360 on this with this Scott right right 1887 01:27:35,990 --> 01:27:33,330 because it's gonna take a lot more to 1888 01:27:36,620 --> 01:27:36,000 make it work than your concept that's 1889 01:27:40,070 --> 01:27:36,630 for sure 1890 01:27:41,810 --> 01:27:40,080 and seconds to be like it would just 1891 01:27:46,490 --> 01:27:41,820 blow me up into a million little 1892 01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:46,500 molecules what yeah I mean that's 1893 01:27:50,030 --> 01:27:48,330 basically because you're not going 1894 01:27:52,070 --> 01:27:50,040 anywhere you're just disintegrating 1895 01:28:04,040 --> 01:27:52,080 basically I mean that's what I'm picking 1896 01:28:06,830 --> 01:28:04,050 up out of this great I see his point 1897 01:28:08,930 --> 01:28:06,840 absolutely I think I don't think I 1898 01:28:12,100 --> 01:28:08,940 wanted to explode today so I think I'm 1899 01:28:15,890 --> 01:28:12,110 just gonna go with your theory okay I 1900 01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:15,900 think yours will work so you know well 1901 01:28:19,550 --> 01:28:17,730 you know what we got the exciting thing 1902 01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:19,560 we're gonna talk about in the last 27 1903 01:28:22,970 --> 01:28:21,210 minutes of the show I've been waiting 1904 01:28:24,590 --> 01:28:22,980 Italy you know like like a kid in a 1905 01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:24,600 candy store because I've got the website 1906 01:28:30,020 --> 01:28:28,410 up here Marshall is starting a new 1907 01:28:31,850 --> 01:28:30,030 company do you want to tell them how 1908 01:28:34,270 --> 01:28:31,860 this started for you I think it was 1909 01:28:37,820 --> 01:28:34,280 because I called you and told you about 1910 01:28:40,730 --> 01:28:37,830 Tom DeLonge and to the stars Academy and 1911 01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:40,740 then right yeah so tell everybody how 1912 01:28:46,970 --> 01:28:43,770 this kind of happened for you what 1913 01:28:51,700 --> 01:28:46,980 happened was that I was on another one I 1914 01:28:59,960 --> 01:28:51,710 was another serve you earth and you were 1915 01:29:01,640 --> 01:28:59,970 over yeah too long and and this sounds 1916 01:29:06,140 --> 01:29:01,650 like the porn stars name 1917 01:29:08,480 --> 01:29:06,150 I hid in this thing called to the stars 1918 01:29:09,620 --> 01:29:08,490 Academy I'm like I didn't know what 1919 01:29:11,300 --> 01:29:09,630 you're talking about but any sort of 1920 01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:11,310 slimy to me would get us and whatever 1921 01:29:16,100 --> 01:29:14,130 you doing I'm like okay why not' that is 1922 01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:16,110 you know what engineering is space 1923 01:29:21,530 --> 01:29:19,290 hunting that does not and I did and I'm 1924 01:29:24,050 --> 01:29:21,540 like well what are you doing that yeah 1925 01:29:26,060 --> 01:29:24,060 and so the bottom line was after I got 1926 01:29:27,940 --> 01:29:26,070 done to share that night that your next 1927 01:29:30,590 --> 01:29:27,950 day I looked them up on the internet and 1928 01:29:33,350 --> 01:29:30,600 I got the lowdown on the whole thing 1929 01:29:34,670 --> 01:29:33,360 well the funny thing about it is the way 1930 01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:34,680 to describe it company it's like 1931 01:29:38,990 --> 01:29:37,410 somebody looked at my resume and said 1932 01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:39,000 let's make a company based on marker 1933 01:29:43,670 --> 01:29:40,890 barn because everything is in there 1934 01:29:46,790 --> 01:29:43,680 except I already had plans for before 1935 01:29:49,430 --> 01:29:46,800 anyway including the sound stuff I mean 1936 01:29:51,770 --> 01:29:49,440 I'm gonna I want a ward for my work in 1937 01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:51,780 STEM education that's themselves with 1938 01:29:59,050 --> 01:29:53,970 science technology engineering and math 1939 01:30:02,810 --> 01:29:59,060 I was number one on the top like a stem 1940 01:30:07,370 --> 01:30:02,820 scientist for National Lab day four in 1941 01:30:08,750 --> 01:30:07,380 2009 and 2010 and I've got all kinds of 1942 01:30:10,580 --> 01:30:08,760 other recognitions as well 1943 01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:10,590 are you going to do that but you've got 1944 01:30:15,970 --> 01:30:14,010 that in there they've got their advanced 1945 01:30:18,950 --> 01:30:15,980 propulsion thing and they're you've got 1946 01:30:22,340 --> 01:30:18,960 all this other stuff consciousness is in 1947 01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:22,350 there the funny thing about it is they 1948 01:30:26,570 --> 01:30:24,090 don't really have anything for any of us 1949 01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:26,580 you know I mean they don't have but they 1950 01:30:30,650 --> 01:30:29,130 don't have any technology the time 1951 01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:30,660 building that plane that plane for the 1952 01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:32,370 cost millions and millions of dollars to 1953 01:30:38,630 --> 01:30:35,610 build they don't have a starts on their 1954 01:30:42,020 --> 01:30:38,640 entertainment division they don't have a 1955 01:30:44,390 --> 01:30:42,030 business model to make money all right 1956 01:30:48,950 --> 01:30:44,400 and they've raised about two and a half 1957 01:30:51,050 --> 01:30:48,960 million so far it's gotten to be more 1958 01:30:55,420 --> 01:30:51,060 but go ahead yeah it's up around 3 1959 01:31:00,140 --> 01:30:55,430 billions up you know Oh Roy yeah well 1960 01:31:02,990 --> 01:31:00,150 here's a deal know if I'm going way back 1961 01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:03,000 I Iook for years aside you have some 1962 01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:06,330 kind of uh super company so to speak I 1963 01:31:11,570 --> 01:31:08,250 mean it was influenced in a way by 1964 01:31:14,659 --> 01:31:11,580 ceasing Sputnik and their idea this by 1965 01:31:18,830 --> 01:31:14,669 that corporation they're just rock band 1966 01:31:21,250 --> 01:31:18,840 he's been any rate and then newer 1967 01:31:24,319 --> 01:31:21,260 Heights infringe this except the 1968 01:31:35,419 --> 01:31:24,329 eucalyptus story French I just got me a 1969 01:31:36,589 --> 01:31:35,429 massive dynamic so I hit I get ideas for 1970 01:31:40,339 --> 01:31:36,599 doing something like that for a long 1971 01:31:44,029 --> 01:31:40,349 time so when I saw what they were doing 1972 01:31:45,770 --> 01:31:44,039 what to serve the Caddy was doing and I 1973 01:31:49,009 --> 01:31:45,780 was also interested as we've been 1974 01:31:49,969 --> 01:31:49,019 talking about doing time travel I was 1975 01:31:53,359 --> 01:31:49,979 thinking in a lot 1976 01:31:54,889 --> 01:31:53,369 I should just because my problem is us I 1977 01:31:56,629 --> 01:31:54,899 want to make a bunch of money because 1978 01:31:58,250 --> 01:31:56,639 I'm going to need it back in time so I'm 1979 01:32:00,709 --> 01:31:58,260 not to start over yet 1980 01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:00,719 another one store off whereas working as 1981 01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:02,130 a cashier as I've already said right 1982 01:32:08,959 --> 01:32:05,489 alright so we need money and I also want 1983 01:32:10,489 --> 01:32:08,969 to pay off my investors I've got so why 1984 01:32:12,279 --> 01:32:10,499 decide to do was like okay I'm just 1985 01:32:14,830 --> 01:32:12,289 going to take everything that I've got 1986 01:32:17,509 --> 01:32:14,840 everything I do and everything that we 1987 01:32:20,350 --> 01:32:17,519 know that we can they can be developed 1988 01:32:23,569 --> 01:32:20,360 and it's turned it into this company and 1989 01:32:26,209 --> 01:32:23,579 this everything's for sale and I like 1990 01:32:29,929 --> 01:32:26,219 will do well we use the ONS company and 1991 01:32:32,359 --> 01:32:29,939 then we can sell the company and you 1992 01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:32,369 know I don't walk away and what 1993 01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:34,050 investors can stay with it they want to 1994 01:32:38,750 --> 01:32:35,010 you or whatever 1995 01:32:40,429 --> 01:32:38,760 have you figured out the perfect buyers 1996 01:32:43,850 --> 01:32:40,439 for this company up we've got an 1997 01:32:45,409 --> 01:32:43,860 established would be probably several 1998 01:32:49,669 --> 01:32:45,419 different entities when it was to be a 1999 01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:49,679 TV network but anyway what we've got is 2000 01:32:56,810 --> 01:32:53,130 a company that has 15 different 2001 01:32:58,909 --> 01:32:56,820 divisions all right and the the websites 2002 01:33:02,689 --> 01:32:58,919 up it's not the size finish which is 2003 01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:02,699 like a stirring page but those 2004 01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:08,449 provisions include aerospace science Oh 2005 01:33:13,459 --> 01:33:11,010 tell everybody where to go so they can 2006 01:33:15,500 --> 01:33:13,469 look at this as well they can see what 2007 01:33:18,169 --> 01:33:15,510 we're talking about so why don't you 2008 01:33:23,109 --> 01:33:18,179 tell them how to get there Marshall this 2009 01:33:25,569 --> 01:33:23,119 gave you a pack of infinity dot 2010 01:33:27,899 --> 01:33:25,579 wordpress.com 2011 01:33:31,540 --> 01:33:27,909 okay that's text 2012 01:33:36,310 --> 01:33:31,550 geh yeah go ahead you finished 2013 01:33:38,260 --> 01:33:36,320 humming of insanity wordpress.com techno 2014 01:33:40,300 --> 01:33:38,270 things one whole thing 2015 01:33:43,510 --> 01:33:40,310 it's short for technologies or hey 2016 01:33:45,370 --> 01:33:43,520 what's the name of something great okay 2017 01:33:47,260 --> 01:33:45,380 and I'm on it right now and it says a 2018 01:33:49,810 --> 01:33:47,270 company from beyond the future if you 2019 01:33:53,770 --> 01:33:49,820 scroll on down and they just put this up 2020 01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:53,780 on February 22nd and there we go so what 2021 01:33:59,439 --> 01:33:56,050 we start with the first one at the top 2022 01:34:02,830 --> 01:33:59,449 all right air space especially the air 2023 01:34:04,660 --> 01:34:02,840 position is going to be developing like 2024 01:34:06,970 --> 01:34:04,670 while we have worked our technology 2025 01:34:09,850 --> 01:34:06,980 doesn't work the way the Alcubierre 2026 01:34:12,010 --> 01:34:09,860 drive works but it is war because it's 2027 01:34:15,130 --> 01:34:12,020 in fact it's a special kind of feel that 2028 01:34:19,870 --> 01:34:15,140 contract space as it moves through space 2029 01:34:22,419 --> 01:34:19,880 and so we've got you know areas of work 2030 01:34:25,450 --> 01:34:22,429 and since using that and also there's a 2031 01:34:28,209 --> 01:34:25,460 new alternative yeah I'm thinking spirit 2032 01:34:32,100 --> 01:34:28,219 of it possible that would actually get 2033 01:34:35,830 --> 01:34:32,110 you to like you know other galaxies um 2034 01:34:38,229 --> 01:34:35,840 you know fashion work work drivers I 2035 01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:38,239 believe is going to have limitations to 2036 01:34:40,630 --> 01:34:38,570 it 2037 01:34:43,959 --> 01:34:40,640 can we get you you're fast so what we 2038 01:34:48,340 --> 01:34:43,969 can do now but it's not space is huge 2039 01:34:53,860 --> 01:34:48,350 it's it's so big you span unless you 2040 01:34:57,070 --> 01:34:53,870 really sat down and look at what yeah is 2041 01:34:58,479 --> 01:34:57,080 a it's a killer of humans basically 2042 01:35:00,550 --> 01:34:58,489 you've got to figure out a way to go 2043 01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:00,560 into stasis for many thousands of years 2044 01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:03,050 to get around if you're really going 2045 01:35:10,149 --> 01:35:08,210 anywhere you know well we came up we 2046 01:35:12,729 --> 01:35:10,159 really see her I could come up with is 2047 01:35:16,419 --> 01:35:12,739 it's based on that time travel 2048 01:35:19,090 --> 01:35:16,429 technology I was talking about but what 2049 01:35:21,939 --> 01:35:19,100 you do is okay you're you're in your 2050 01:35:24,130 --> 01:35:21,949 spaceship and you have similar 2051 01:35:26,770 --> 01:35:24,140 technologies I was described before 2052 01:35:30,490 --> 01:35:26,780 but what you do is you translate 2053 01:35:34,959 --> 01:35:30,500 yourself to another the spot out there 2054 01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:34,969 in space you just you just jump yeah and 2055 01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:39,050 it's like you do that and Wow yeah I 2056 01:35:48,780 --> 01:35:41,570 mean there is no travel in between your 2057 01:35:53,819 --> 01:35:52,030 yeah I mean so you're an alien amongst 2058 01:35:59,979 --> 01:35:53,829 us 2059 01:36:01,959 --> 01:35:59,989 the ships the two I have seen they are 2060 01:36:06,339 --> 01:36:01,969 they're just not there anymore they're 2061 01:36:08,740 --> 01:36:06,349 in another I mean they're gone they're 2062 01:36:12,569 --> 01:36:08,750 folding time to get to where they're 2063 01:36:15,700 --> 01:36:12,579 going this is how I've always put it 2064 01:36:16,149 --> 01:36:15,710 what you're doing you know what I'm 2065 01:36:20,290 --> 01:36:16,159 saying 2066 01:36:24,459 --> 01:36:20,300 right exactly what this would do is this 2067 01:36:26,770 --> 01:36:24,469 would work with the information basis of 2068 01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:26,780 the universe itself is connected Kawana 2069 01:36:31,510 --> 01:36:30,050 cannon and it would just you know go hey 2070 01:36:34,390 --> 01:36:31,520 we're here right now what we want to be 2071 01:36:37,089 --> 01:36:34,400 over there and raise the probability get 2072 01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:37,099 you Phoebe over there and and this it's 2073 01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:38,090 not zero 2074 01:36:44,830 --> 01:36:41,570 thank you saying yeah probably 2075 01:36:46,569 --> 01:36:44,840 you be there is not zero and may be 2076 01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:46,579 closer than you well but it's not zero 2077 01:36:52,359 --> 01:36:49,250 and so you just amplify that probability 2078 01:36:54,580 --> 01:36:52,369 and then ma'am you're there so you know 2079 01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:54,590 what the other thing this sounds like is 2080 01:37:00,750 --> 01:36:57,170 what happened to Ralph ring if the story 2081 01:37:10,180 --> 01:37:05,649 rothmeyer yeah he ODIs car who was 2082 01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:10,190 Tesla's assistant built for some company 2083 01:37:16,300 --> 01:37:11,690 I don't remember the whole story now a 2084 01:37:18,370 --> 01:37:16,310 small flying saucer and Otis Carr had 2085 01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:18,380 said that Tesla had figured out the 2086 01:37:25,030 --> 01:37:21,770 barrier between time and space and that 2087 01:37:27,790 --> 01:37:25,040 he could move them in that ship wherever 2088 01:37:30,609 --> 01:37:27,800 they wanted to go and so quickly that 2089 01:37:33,069 --> 01:37:30,619 they wouldn't remember it and he did and 2090 01:37:34,620 --> 01:37:33,079 what his instructions were to them is 2091 01:37:37,810 --> 01:37:34,630 when you get to where you're going to go 2092 01:37:39,430 --> 01:37:37,820 go ahead and pick up some dirt on the 2093 01:37:41,740 --> 01:37:39,440 ground and you get out of the ship put 2094 01:37:44,890 --> 01:37:41,750 it in your pockets and then when you're 2095 01:37:47,950 --> 01:37:44,900 back we'll examine it well the other 2096 01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:47,960 problem they had Marshall that Ralph 2097 01:37:53,500 --> 01:37:50,210 always wonders about is why they 2098 01:37:55,310 --> 01:37:53,510 couldn't remember it see they they did 2099 01:37:57,709 --> 01:37:55,320 do it they traveled all the 2100 01:38:00,169 --> 01:37:57,719 down Apple Valley and came back and 2101 01:38:02,839 --> 01:38:00,179 there were people that saw the ship out 2102 01:38:05,450 --> 01:38:02,849 there doing its thing but it happened so 2103 01:38:07,339 --> 01:38:05,460 quickly for them that they couldn't 2104 01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:07,349 remember it happening they thought it 2105 01:38:20,839 --> 01:38:18,449 was a failed experiment yeah he has some 2106 01:38:23,569 --> 01:38:20,849 insight into this he thinks it's more of 2107 01:38:30,830 --> 01:38:23,579 a by location but I'm a I don't know I 2108 01:38:31,910 --> 01:38:30,840 just don't know what anyway so Aris this 2109 01:38:34,100 --> 01:38:31,920 is when we do all kinds of interesting 2110 01:38:35,660 --> 01:38:34,110 things well with Sciences vision it's 2111 01:38:37,970 --> 01:38:35,670 going to be looking for new answers to 2112 01:38:39,470 --> 01:38:37,980 questions whatever the technology 2113 01:38:41,030 --> 01:38:39,480 development division was there's any 2114 01:38:43,729 --> 01:38:41,040 development technology that some of you 2115 01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:43,739 be used by aerospace and the other 2116 01:38:50,899 --> 01:38:48,570 visions that we have please build me a 2117 01:38:53,209 --> 01:38:50,909 flying car so I don't have to drive 2118 01:39:02,959 --> 01:38:53,219 anymore that flies by itself 2119 01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:02,969 please I want to buy one thirty thousand 2120 01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:08,610 I almost found a penny more Wow no we 2121 01:39:13,580 --> 01:39:10,530 don't we don't have a flying car 2122 01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:13,590 division there's all these people do 2123 01:39:22,459 --> 01:39:19,050 there's more flying cars yeah yeah he's 2124 01:39:24,350 --> 01:39:22,469 pretty cool dude docking him but he's 2125 01:39:27,709 --> 01:39:24,360 still he's working on that you know the 2126 01:39:30,859 --> 01:39:27,719 old you know jet engine principle of you 2127 01:39:31,939 --> 01:39:30,869 know I'm a helicopter really is what it 2128 01:39:34,609 --> 01:39:31,949 is I 2129 01:39:36,020 --> 01:39:34,619 I'm not into ones that got props I want 2130 01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:36,030 something to have some kind of warp 2131 01:39:48,530 --> 01:39:41,730 drive in it before I'm getting there any 2132 01:39:53,510 --> 01:39:48,540 gravity right I don't know any gravity I 2133 01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:53,520 haven't messed with that we hire people 2134 01:39:57,410 --> 01:39:55,770 that will do that for you though I can 2135 01:39:59,149 --> 01:39:57,420 tell you that right now but in that day 2136 01:40:03,319 --> 01:39:59,159 isn't too far off okay 2137 01:40:05,919 --> 01:40:03,329 so space is your next one right spaces 2138 01:40:07,620 --> 01:40:05,929 include space exploration 2139 01:40:10,140 --> 01:40:07,630 commercialization of space 2140 01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:10,150 one of things we want to do is partner 2141 01:40:14,189 --> 01:40:12,130 with other companies because I'm 2142 01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:14,199 actually done things in the aerospace 2143 01:40:20,220 --> 01:40:17,770 community a la ila lecture that major 2144 01:40:24,959 --> 01:40:20,230 space concepts before I know people that 2145 01:40:26,790 --> 01:40:24,969 under all the space companies and one of 2146 01:40:30,209 --> 01:40:26,800 things we're looking at is doing events 2147 01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:30,219 on the moon and there they will include 2148 01:40:36,589 --> 01:40:33,130 like other races and stuff like that 2149 01:40:39,300 --> 01:40:36,599 because you can have an electric car and 2150 01:40:42,419 --> 01:40:39,310 you don't have to have a breathable 2151 01:40:44,430 --> 01:40:42,429 cotton else or even fuel jacket covering 2152 01:40:46,140 --> 01:40:44,440 a carburetor or anything guys it's not 2153 01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:46,150 these are engines that don't breathe air 2154 01:40:51,810 --> 01:40:49,570 like a regular car does okay so you can 2155 01:40:54,390 --> 01:40:51,820 run one a minute you can't run or you 2156 01:40:58,200 --> 01:40:54,400 can't take a regular larger than then so 2157 01:41:01,470 --> 01:40:58,210 you can you know races and each Club 2158 01:41:03,629 --> 01:41:01,480 could have little cameras in it and so 2159 01:41:05,819 --> 01:41:03,639 you could so you would get a different 2160 01:41:07,620 --> 01:41:05,829 perspective this as well as like you 2161 01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:07,630 know the cameras around the track almost 2162 01:41:11,450 --> 01:41:09,610 kind of stuff and it would be really 2163 01:41:15,270 --> 01:41:11,460 cool looking there's a French company 2164 01:41:17,250 --> 01:41:15,280 that kind of distance visuals is 2165 01:41:20,970 --> 01:41:17,260 important taking that kind of thing and 2166 01:41:23,010 --> 01:41:20,980 it looks great but I have uh in the 2167 01:41:26,149 --> 01:41:23,020 actual materials for something we're 2168 01:41:30,180 --> 01:41:26,159 developing we have a full-blown 2169 01:41:32,970 --> 01:41:30,190 description of a number of space tourism 2170 01:41:37,589 --> 01:41:32,980 activities on the moon that we'll be 2171 01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:37,599 doing and so that it's we see all kinds 2172 01:41:43,490 --> 01:41:40,770 of potential everything something like 2173 01:41:46,979 --> 01:41:43,500 things happening on the surface too like 2174 01:41:47,339 --> 01:41:46,989 tours where people can fly from Earth to 2175 01:41:51,330 --> 01:41:47,349 the Moon 2176 01:41:54,270 --> 01:41:51,340 to steal flybys to see it and go to dark 2177 01:41:56,370 --> 01:41:54,280 side as well and come back and at that 2178 01:41:59,010 --> 01:41:56,380 kind of stuff that's our space 2179 01:42:02,010 --> 01:41:59,020 efficiently doing biomed we'll be 2180 01:42:03,780 --> 01:42:02,020 looking at different cures for like you 2181 01:42:07,770 --> 01:42:03,790 know I have a cure for the common cold 2182 01:42:09,930 --> 01:42:07,780 and I've used this as 1986 and do some 2183 01:42:12,419 --> 01:42:09,940 companies out there I'm kind of kind of 2184 01:42:14,970 --> 01:42:12,429 come close to the same thing but they 2185 01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:14,980 all have exactly the same thing so we 2186 01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:17,610 would start there we are my little 2187 01:42:21,089 --> 01:42:20,530 initial foray into biomed there's other 2188 01:42:23,399 --> 01:42:21,099 things 2189 01:42:25,859 --> 01:42:23,409 we can get involved with as well but we 2190 01:42:30,209 --> 01:42:25,869 have something to start out with well 2191 01:42:31,830 --> 01:42:30,219 advanced automotive we have ideas about 2192 01:42:35,569 --> 01:42:31,840 how to make a special kind of card it 2193 01:42:38,129 --> 01:42:35,579 doesn't run on electricity or fuel and 2194 01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:38,139 the best word about that is that we 2195 01:42:45,149 --> 01:42:41,050 figured out how to develop and 2196 01:42:48,030 --> 01:42:45,159 manufacture and sell this without doing 2197 01:42:49,050 --> 01:42:48,040 any normal what doing it in Norway 2198 01:42:50,700 --> 01:42:49,060 everyone does 2199 01:42:52,229 --> 01:42:50,710 it's a completely different business 2200 01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:52,239 model it wouldn't work 2201 01:42:57,330 --> 01:42:53,770 and we never lose a market for the car 2202 01:43:00,770 --> 01:42:57,340 because the car wouldn't be made from 2203 01:43:03,959 --> 01:43:00,780 scratch we may be retooling and 2204 01:43:06,330 --> 01:43:03,969 modifying already existing cars so 2205 01:43:08,879 --> 01:43:06,340 she'll be flying I hope people will be 2206 01:43:11,220 --> 01:43:08,889 buying an older car but think about it 2207 01:43:14,430 --> 01:43:11,230 we have to put gas in it and we already 2208 01:43:16,709 --> 01:43:14,440 did origin or marketing on that or text 2209 01:43:18,270 --> 01:43:16,719 marking on that and people said hey I 2210 01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:18,280 think yes and I don't care 2211 01:43:25,470 --> 01:43:22,210 so bingo and so that's what advanced 2212 01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:25,480 automotive thing would do in this 2213 01:43:30,720 --> 01:43:28,090 musical technology from have a musical 2214 01:43:38,669 --> 01:43:30,730 background early enough like Tom DeLonge 2215 01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:38,679 but well I better keep quiet I I bashed 2216 01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:41,050 the poor guy all the time I gotta be at 2217 01:43:53,669 --> 01:43:43,210 least nice and say his musics pretty 2218 01:43:56,100 --> 01:43:53,679 good ok blink-182 and then angel 2219 01:44:01,890 --> 01:43:56,110 something my camera would they were but 2220 01:44:04,319 --> 01:44:01,900 they were ok anyway anyway what I did 2221 01:44:06,990 --> 01:44:04,329 was I've been involved in these it 2222 01:44:09,839 --> 01:44:07,000 longer than him because he's I'm older 2223 01:44:12,839 --> 01:44:09,849 and I got started in my teens 2224 01:44:14,970 --> 01:44:12,849 and I was always interested in the 2225 01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:14,980 technology aspect of music of music 2226 01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:18,130 because most of my studio musicians were 2227 01:44:22,770 --> 01:44:20,290 also technically whirring like Todd 2228 01:44:25,740 --> 01:44:22,780 Rundgren and people like that so as a 2229 01:44:28,709 --> 01:44:25,750 result we now already have technology 2230 01:44:30,270 --> 01:44:28,719 and different areas that's more advanced 2231 01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:30,280 anything any way else is doing right now 2232 01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:32,650 that we I've been able to come up with a 2233 01:44:38,990 --> 01:44:34,650 way that we could enhance from 2234 01:44:40,850 --> 01:44:39,000 music so such a degree that we have to 2235 01:44:43,070 --> 01:44:40,860 be careful how we would market this 2236 01:44:45,470 --> 01:44:43,080 because if you hear it it's so 2237 01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:45,480 incredible that you get high from 2238 01:44:50,180 --> 01:44:47,130 hearing your brain just goes on and 2239 01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:50,190 orphan time because it's like wow you 2240 01:44:55,850 --> 01:44:53,130 know and what we're doing is we're not 2241 01:44:57,470 --> 01:44:55,860 changing the music itself but not 2242 01:44:59,720 --> 01:44:57,480 running everything's will flanger a face 2243 01:45:03,919 --> 01:44:59,730 ship there isn't like that it does not 2244 01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:03,929 affect the quality and the actual 2245 01:45:09,410 --> 01:45:07,530 dynamics of the originally Corinne you 2246 01:45:10,459 --> 01:45:09,420 just hear it completely in a different 2247 01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:10,469 way 2248 01:45:15,350 --> 01:45:13,170 no that's interesting because you know 2249 01:45:18,620 --> 01:45:15,360 they're they're now writing music for a 2250 01:45:21,140 --> 01:45:18,630 sports enhancement and running and yoga 2251 01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:21,150 and meditation because they take you 2252 01:45:28,220 --> 01:45:23,730 into different waves of theta and Delta 2253 01:45:30,709 --> 01:45:28,230 and what-have-you and when I found or 2254 01:45:32,570 --> 01:45:30,719 they release endorphins or whatever it 2255 01:45:34,790 --> 01:45:32,580 is whatever frequency they're adding to 2256 01:45:37,340 --> 01:45:34,800 this music but the music is not your you 2257 01:45:39,140 --> 01:45:37,350 know your common hip parade of music 2258 01:45:41,330 --> 01:45:39,150 it's music they've developed and it gets 2259 01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:41,340 repetitive and somewhat boring actually 2260 01:45:52,729 --> 01:45:49,530 hate to tell you yeah I can do this for 2261 01:45:54,890 --> 01:45:52,739 any kind of music and it was not for 2262 01:45:56,810 --> 01:45:54,900 example I could do this for country 2263 01:46:01,750 --> 01:45:56,820 music album I can do this for bluegrass 2264 01:46:09,350 --> 01:46:06,290 people or whatever yeah but you wouldn't 2265 01:46:10,729 --> 01:46:09,360 you would still sound the same but you 2266 01:46:13,130 --> 01:46:10,739 would experience it in a completely 2267 01:46:14,959 --> 01:46:13,140 different way and that's what that's 2268 01:46:18,459 --> 01:46:14,969 what triggers a door for thing but it 2269 01:46:22,700 --> 01:46:18,469 would still have me go to glass is 2270 01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:22,710 performed very basic acoustical acoustic 2271 01:46:27,110 --> 01:46:25,290 instrument so one of them you make 2272 01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:27,120 yourself spaced out or anything 2273 01:46:32,090 --> 01:46:29,130 it doesn't change in your eternal 2274 01:46:35,270 --> 01:46:32,100 quality of the instruments themselves at 2275 01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:35,280 all but you just hear it differently and 2276 01:46:40,070 --> 01:46:39,330 that's a secret so we got that much much 2277 01:46:42,350 --> 01:46:40,080 other stuff 2278 01:46:45,140 --> 01:46:42,360 in other words keeping um try expresses 2279 01:46:47,050 --> 01:46:45,150 that we already have things that we can 2280 01:46:49,540 --> 01:46:47,060 do with this we're not we're 2281 01:46:58,420 --> 01:46:49,550 looking for ideas from anybody else the 2282 01:47:00,160 --> 01:46:58,430 way to start I want to talk to you if we 2283 01:47:01,450 --> 01:47:00,170 get to nothing else in the rest of the 2284 01:47:04,390 --> 01:47:01,460 show we only have about four minutes 2285 01:47:07,210 --> 01:47:04,400 left is consciousness just blows my mind 2286 01:47:09,370 --> 01:47:07,220 so what what would you guys be doing 2287 01:47:12,370 --> 01:47:09,380 with consciousness I mean how do you 2288 01:47:14,370 --> 01:47:12,380 even do something with consciousness do 2289 01:47:17,130 --> 01:47:14,380 you measure it are you gonna give us 2290 01:47:19,990 --> 01:47:17,140 expanded consciousness what's the plan 2291 01:47:22,420 --> 01:47:20,000 well essentially we're gonna be doing is 2292 01:47:24,550 --> 01:47:22,430 we're going to be doing research and 2293 01:47:28,420 --> 01:47:24,560 mine machining interfacing kind of 2294 01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:28,430 things doing things yeah good things 2295 01:47:33,660 --> 01:47:31,970 that will expand conscious was that one 2296 01:47:36,100 --> 01:47:33,670 of these will do the consciousness is 2297 01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:36,110 this is one thing I having to deal with 2298 01:47:43,150 --> 01:47:39,410 Eurasian dilation and it was something I 2299 01:47:45,940 --> 01:47:43,160 think armies existed in and we're we 2300 01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:45,950 were looking at ways and dusit so that 2301 01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:48,410 you if you get into a firefight you are 2302 01:47:53,170 --> 01:47:50,690 mapping Gillard's and duration valuation 2303 01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:53,180 and that makes you a better warfighter 2304 01:47:59,110 --> 01:47:55,970 it makes you your actions better 2305 01:48:02,050 --> 01:47:59,120 everything like that and what David 2306 01:48:04,480 --> 01:48:02,060 Eagleman had done he did a study and he 2307 01:48:07,030 --> 01:48:04,490 claimed initially wasn't one that got 2308 01:48:09,340 --> 01:48:07,040 most of publicity adoration dilation 2309 01:48:12,850 --> 01:48:09,350 where you see everything slowed down for 2310 01:48:16,120 --> 01:48:12,860 you it yeah it was actually he said it 2311 01:48:18,700 --> 01:48:16,130 was a long memory it's not why I did I 2312 01:48:20,050 --> 01:48:18,710 apply one things I can develop some 2313 01:48:23,290 --> 01:48:20,060 conscious research called tender 2314 01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:23,300 cosmetics and it's an economic analysis 2315 01:48:30,820 --> 01:48:27,890 of his research and found that it was 2316 01:48:34,630 --> 01:48:30,830 not he was wrong it's not a subject of 2317 01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:34,640 dub or a product of longing and memory 2318 01:48:41,470 --> 01:48:39,610 it actually happens for real and he is 2319 01:48:45,220 --> 01:48:41,480 testing it were wrong 2320 01:48:47,440 --> 01:48:45,230 so I mean consciousness we got a 2321 01:48:49,930 --> 01:48:47,450 military division are we doing what 2322 01:48:52,450 --> 01:48:49,940 should do all kinds of things um you 2323 01:48:55,020 --> 01:48:52,460 know technology research to actually 2324 01:48:59,370 --> 01:48:55,030 making things that can be put into the 2325 01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:01,710 gonna love you requests for proposals 2326 01:49:14,570 --> 01:49:04,210 for Department of Defense are going to 2327 01:49:20,100 --> 01:49:16,800 we'll have that and we already have 2328 01:49:24,030 --> 01:49:20,110 things that would apply to that already 2329 01:49:27,540 --> 01:49:24,040 then there's an artificial because I've 2330 01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:27,550 been open to business of art and we're 2331 01:49:31,290 --> 01:49:29,530 pretty much pretty close to being able 2332 01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:31,300 to break into that on a high-end level 2333 01:49:35,790 --> 01:49:33,370 where we can create stuff anybody else 2334 01:49:38,460 --> 01:49:35,800 can do we only do like one version of it 2335 01:49:40,140 --> 01:49:38,470 and collectors will buy it like on big 2336 01:49:42,180 --> 01:49:40,150 dollar amounts so that's just like 2337 01:49:43,830 --> 01:49:42,190 something for fun that will make money 2338 01:49:46,890 --> 01:49:43,840 then there's a live entertainment 2339 01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:46,900 activation which will have technology 2340 01:49:50,670 --> 01:49:48,850 for a while entertainment events who was 2341 01:49:53,850 --> 01:49:50,680 unlike anything that already exists 2342 01:49:55,890 --> 01:49:53,860 forget the plans for somatic events 2343 01:49:59,490 --> 01:49:55,900 those events what we're going to be 2344 01:50:02,760 --> 01:49:59,500 doing things where it's like the movies 2345 01:50:07,670 --> 01:50:02,770 a game for example I know that was about 2346 01:50:12,230 --> 01:50:07,680 but I love that movie I am that movie 2347 01:50:16,890 --> 01:50:12,240 stuff like that but or the scale that 2348 01:50:19,410 --> 01:50:16,900 would be incredible and then we're also 2349 01:50:21,390 --> 01:50:19,420 gonna get into the license verses were 2350 01:50:25,140 --> 01:50:21,400 like for example it might take something 2351 01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:25,150 from a movie you know and then do it you 2352 01:50:34,440 --> 01:50:29,890 would say to your somewhere Star Wars 2353 01:50:36,630 --> 01:50:34,450 Oh roleplay but with all the 2354 01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:36,640 enhancements right I'd have a real 2355 01:50:46,050 --> 01:50:43,090 lightsaber lightsaber but it would be it 2356 01:50:48,030 --> 01:50:46,060 would be incredible and then like we 2357 01:50:51,570 --> 01:50:48,040 have there's this being education which 2358 01:50:53,970 --> 01:50:51,580 is nanoscience technology or math that's 2359 01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:53,980 in there and then blue sky R&D is 2360 01:50:59,250 --> 01:50:56,410 essentially the division what you to sit 2361 01:51:02,040 --> 01:50:59,260 around and just go what if in this place 2362 01:51:04,980 --> 01:51:02,050 someone with crazy ideas figure out if 2363 01:51:11,969 --> 01:51:04,990 any of it makes sense or not and then we 2364 01:51:16,500 --> 01:51:13,680 that is really cool I would not invest 2365 01:51:19,469 --> 01:51:16,510 into the Stars I just didn't feel it man 2366 01:51:21,270 --> 01:51:19,479 I had no desire this makes me just gives 2367 01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:21,280 me goose bumps it makes me wanted and 2368 01:51:30,359 --> 01:51:23,530 we're not trying to we're not trying to 2369 01:51:33,750 --> 01:51:30,369 doing you can't really have a marshal 2370 01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:33,760 and we're running a little over time J 2371 01:51:37,529 --> 01:51:35,650 but they're not doing anything with 2372 01:51:40,290 --> 01:51:37,539 aliens either they don't even want the 2373 01:51:42,359 --> 01:51:40,300 name brought up to the the whole thing 2374 01:51:44,339 --> 01:51:42,369 they're really trying hard to do 2375 01:51:46,500 --> 01:51:44,349 disclosure without aliens which really 2376 01:51:48,629 --> 01:51:46,510 pisses me off because it's like oh yeah 2377 01:51:50,699 --> 01:51:48,639 well who's driving the damn things you 2378 01:51:53,879 --> 01:51:50,709 know they just appear out you know with 2379 01:51:56,609 --> 01:51:53,889 nobody no consciousness behind them you 2380 01:51:58,949 --> 01:51:56,619 know whether they're alive is a ship or 2381 01:52:01,770 --> 01:51:58,959 there is somebody inside of them making 2382 01:52:04,259 --> 01:52:01,780 them move got online I can't just ignore 2383 01:52:05,609 --> 01:52:04,269 it and see that makes me mad it's like 2384 01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:05,619 you know if they're gonna come out with 2385 01:52:11,580 --> 01:52:08,170 disclosure let's just do it for real you 2386 01:52:13,529 --> 01:52:11,590 know no [\h__\h] you know whatever you 2387 01:52:15,540 --> 01:52:13,539 know I don't even care anymore I'm just 2388 01:52:22,169 --> 01:52:15,550 I just want to type travel I can care 2389 01:52:24,509 --> 01:52:22,179 less about aliens so and they haven't 2390 01:52:26,729 --> 01:52:24,519 bombed us and they haven't killed us so 2391 01:52:29,879 --> 01:52:26,739 you know obviously they're not doing a 2392 01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:29,889 whole lot to you know to us you know 2393 01:52:34,259 --> 01:52:31,090 we're all still here 2394 01:52:37,319 --> 01:52:34,269 you know examining our navels as humans 2395 01:52:39,419 --> 01:52:37,329 so all right you know yeah unless they 2396 01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:39,429 plan on a big invasion then you and I 2397 01:52:47,609 --> 01:52:46,090 better get out of here a lot of people 2398 01:52:50,279 --> 01:52:47,619 want the time travel the minute the 2399 01:52:52,589 --> 01:52:50,289 CME's coming at you know twelve hours 2400 01:52:55,469 --> 01:52:52,599 and ninety three million people are 2401 01:52:58,319 --> 01:52:55,479 gonna be dead in 48 hours you know oh my 2402 01:53:00,239 --> 01:52:58,329 god it's crazy okay well with that we 2403 01:53:02,219 --> 01:53:00,249 got to close out the show Marshall thank 2404 01:53:04,709 --> 01:53:02,229 you for being with me and is there 2405 01:53:09,029 --> 01:53:04,719 anything anybody could do I mean could 2406 01:53:12,799 --> 01:53:09,039 they come to the DC coders right yeah 2407 01:53:19,080 --> 01:53:12,809 I'll give that a guess this is your l DC 2408 01:53:20,939 --> 01:53:19,090 kudos it's bc co de RS dot org Libyan 2409 01:53:22,799 --> 01:53:20,949 Washington DC during events there and 2410 01:53:25,919 --> 01:53:22,809 the schedule for the whole things like 2411 01:53:30,470 --> 01:53:25,929 that site and you can always check me 2412 01:53:36,020 --> 01:53:30,480 Twitter on Quora calm 2413 01:53:40,380 --> 01:53:36,030 secondly I belong at 2 or 4 to 1971 2414 01:53:42,030 --> 01:53:40,390 corridor or Duke or calm rather and also 2415 01:53:46,100 --> 01:53:42,040 again second you get more information 2416 01:53:52,020 --> 01:53:46,110 together about dot mean forward slash 2417 01:53:55,410 --> 01:53:52,030 Marshall are you know they are d ent I 2418 01:53:57,510 --> 01:53:55,420 said we couldn't do R&D but Marshall 2419 01:54:04,229 --> 01:53:57,520 it's about that may force us Marshall 2420 01:54:07,260 --> 01:54:04,239 Barnes are an art the EMG and II never I 2421 01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:07,270 can't get yeah and one of these days we 2422 01:54:10,620 --> 01:54:08,890 will actually have a website up for 2423 01:54:12,780 --> 01:54:10,630 Marshall it's just gonna take me a while 2424 01:54:14,790 --> 01:54:12,790 to get it done for him I promise and by 2425 01:54:17,669 --> 01:54:14,800 the summer of I if I can get my act 2426 01:54:20,689 --> 01:54:17,679 together here and that'll just be an 2427 01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:20,699 enhancement to his beautiful technology 2428 01:54:26,070 --> 01:54:23,770 in technologies of infinity company 2429 01:54:28,919 --> 01:54:26,080 there we go so wonderful 2430 01:54:30,689 --> 01:54:28,929 well I you know what Marshall stay on 2431 01:54:32,130 --> 01:54:30,699 the air I mean stay on the lines I want 2432 01:54:34,830 --> 01:54:32,140 to talk to you after we're over tonight 2433 01:54:37,830 --> 01:54:34,840 now next week folks I'm on my way to DC 2434 01:54:40,169 --> 01:54:37,840 and I just want to say you know pray for 2435 01:54:42,990 --> 01:54:40,179 me and pray that the JFK cut you know 2436 01:54:45,479 --> 01:54:43,000 conference goes well and that all the 2437 01:54:48,180 --> 01:54:45,489 guys make it and that's always a big 2438 01:54:50,100 --> 01:54:48,190 thing and if you guys can make it please 2439 01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:50,110 do because we really are gonna have an 2440 01:54:54,149 --> 01:54:52,330 amazing time just think Thursday night 2441 01:54:56,100 --> 01:54:54,159 you could go see Marshall and then on 2442 01:54:58,680 --> 01:54:56,110 Friday Saturday and Sunday you can go 2443 01:55:00,300 --> 01:54:58,690 hang out with me and then on Monday if 2444 01:55:03,540 --> 01:55:00,310 you want you can go to the Spy Museum 2445 01:55:05,910 --> 01:55:03,550 with me and the Cold War Museum with me 2446 01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:05,920 it's gonna be really a fun weekend so 2447 01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:07,570 there you go we've hadded Marshall into 2448 01:55:11,459 --> 01:55:09,730 the mix as well so I do hope you guys 2449 01:55:14,970 --> 01:55:11,469 can make it if you can't make me make 2450 01:55:18,689 --> 01:55:14,980 make Marshalls event in DC coders org or